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  • #16
    PassTheAmmo
    Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 143

    I just got done researching this over the last few weeks.

    OcRyan is right. 2.5oz is all that is legal to carry for personal defense. The bear spray vastly exceeds that.

    I limited my search to those products which are fairly common and easy to acquire. Defensive spray expires, so you want to be able to refresh your stock easily.

    After much research, I went with the Sabre 3 in 1 defense spray (not Red). The defense spray has tear gas as well as pepper spray so it will be useful for people but also dogs (our neighborhood is having aggressive dog problems). I got a combo kit with the 2.5oz canister and the key ring canister for under 20 bucks at ammo bros. Red does not have the tear gas.

    Dogs tear ducts don't work like ours so the pepper irritant (OC) doesn't necessarily disable them. That's what the tear gas is for.

    The 3 in 1 also has a uv marker dye in it.

    I like the deployment package of the kimber pepper blaster but it is only OC, no CS/CN option. Worse it only has 2 bursts. The canned spray is good for 20-30 bursts so you can test it.

    Keep some no more tears shampoo around. It's good for dissipating OC oil from your eyes if you catch some back blast in the wind.

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    • #17
      PassTheAmmo
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 143

      Originally posted by SoCal Choppas
      FYI: many said the Kimber is illegal in CA, it is considered a firearm, because it uses a micro-explosion to propel the ingredients. that's why many places will not sell it to CA residence.
      They sell it at Bass Pro. It's at the optics counter by the laser grips, binoculars, and holographic sights.

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      • #18
        DFence
        • Feb 2012
        • 1368

        Cold Steel Inferno. Seen it in use and it WORKS!
        Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

        NRA Certified Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun/PPIH/PPOH Instructor | NRA Certified RSO | NRA Life Member | GSSF Life Time Member | Surefire Low Light Instructor | Glock Certified Armorer | Utah CCW Instructor | Nevada CCW Instructor

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        • #19
          ElvenSoul
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2008
          • 17431

          The bear spray is only 3 to 5% so it can be in a larger can. If you have ever seen what 10% can do to a dog you would not worry. I had some kids sick their pit bull on me back in 2000 when I was working security at a Sacramento Bank. Emergency Services had to rush the dog to a vet. It went down and could not breath.

          In 2009 my Security Company had a contract at a apartment building where some kids where fidling around with pepperspray. One of the kids was asthmatic and had to be rushed to the hospital. Everyone always thinks it's the eyes.
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          • #20
            the86d
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2011
            • 9587

            2.5oz is the limit to carry, but can you get a BIG can of BEAR Spray and leave it by the door just in case your kids is attacked by a dog in the front yard?

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            • #21
              SoCal Choppas
              Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 425

              12403.7 (e) (1) No person shall purchase, possess, or use any tear gas weapon that expels a projectile, or that expels the tear gas by any method other than an aerosol spray, or that contains more than 2.5 ounces net weight of aerosol spray.

              It up to you, if you want to take the chance in California. Just because some store is selling it, doesn't mean they have a clue it's legal.

              Says in their own ad...NO MAIL ORDER SALES TO CA, NY, MA, DC.Commie States



              to be technical, not sure if California DOJ considers CN (MACE) the same is OC (Pepper Spray)
              Last edited by SoCal Choppas; 02-01-2013, 9:40 AM.

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              • #22
                amd64
                Senior Member
                • May 2005
                • 1131

                Sabre or Fox Labs

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                • #23
                  iceman710
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 78

                  Saber

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                  • #24
                    drunktank
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5461

                    I've read Fox labs had a stronger formula than Sabre, but both will work well. Just be sure to buy the type that sprays the "pattern" you want and practice with it first. Hope this helps you two any.

                    WTB used AK MFER.

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                    • #25
                      DBoulant
                      Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 203

                      whatever she gets, make sure she can handle discharging it. My wife was issued the "good stuff" and she can barely handle using it in well ventilated large rooms. Some of her coworkers it has no effect on... either by genetics or immunity from their college days i suppose.
                      "That's a good old-fashioned gun. Simple point-and-click interface."

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                      • #26
                        intruder1_92tt
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 152

                        I will recommend, without reservation, Fox 5.3 in the stream option. I have used more of this stuff than I care to think about, on animals and people, and it was always effective. I recommend not using the cone type spray, since it limits the effective range, and is more likely to get you as well.

                        A word of caution, this stuff is far more potent than most any other type of OC. Once you use it, get clear of the area ASAP. If you spray it indoors, get out of the building.

                        I once sprayed a guy with this stuff who was raging on a mixture of alcohol and cocaine, and it stopped him in his tracks. I had deployed the OC in a breezeway, and in less than 30 seconds, I was snotting up even though I had not caught any of the back-spray.

                        I carry a 4oz can when I'm on duty and a 2.5oz can when I'm in my civvies.
                        Just my $0.02

                        All posts were written by a multi-ped robot that stole my phone.

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                        • #27
                          the86d
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 9587

                          Originally posted by intruder1_92tt
                          I will recommend, without reservation, Fox 5.3 in the stream option. I have used more of this stuff than I care to think about, on animals and people, and it was always effective. I recommend not using the cone type spray, since it limits the effective range, and is more likely to get you as well.

                          A word of caution, this stuff is far more potent than most any other type of OC. Once you use it, get clear of the area ASAP. If you spray it indoors, get out of the building.

                          I once sprayed a guy with this stuff who was raging on a mixture of alcohol and cocaine, and it stopped him in his tracks. I had deployed the OC in a breezeway, and in less than 30 seconds, I was snotting up even though I had not caught any of the back-spray.

                          I carry a 4oz can when I'm on duty and a 2.5oz can when I'm in my civvies.
                          Just my $0.02
                          Police exempt from the 2.5oz legal canister size limit?

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                          • #28
                            intruder1_92tt
                            Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 152

                            Originally posted by the86d
                            Police exempt from the 2.5oz legal canister size limit?
                            Yes, but so are security guards when properly licensed.

                            All posts were written by a multi-ped robot that stole my phone.

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                            • #29
                              stamina
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 24

                              Perfect timing to have stumbled across this thread! I was looking for something to keep in my purse until carry is allowed for self-defense.

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                              • #30
                                kraycat
                                Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 249

                                Kimberly Pepper blaster, couple extra bucks...

                                Sent from the Jungle.

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