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  • eville
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 902

    For my sister in law.

    She lives On a large piece of property in st Helena. She runs the fire roads every morning. There have been mountain lions sighted in the area. I told her she should run with a pistol. Any of you ladies carry while running?

    What's your setup?

    Thanks.
    Steve
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    Bugguts
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 1286

    First a CCW. Depending on the county where she lives, she may not get one. Wouldn't even carry without one. On her own property, the rules are different but you say Fire Roads and those are public land so she can't legally carry without a CCW there.

    Going on 4mos since I applied. Have been approved, did livescan, class and turned in targets, now just waiting for the call to pick it up.

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    • #3
      movie zombie
      Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jul 2007
      • 14644

      if fire roads on her own property she would be ok to open carry loaded w/o any CCW requirement. however, she certainly would NOT want to be on anyone else's property or public land.

      bear spray?

      if she's running a moutain lion might see her as prey....and by the time she sees the mountain lion she might be up close and way to personal with it to even draw a gun.
      "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
      Originally posted by The Shootist
      Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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      • #4
        eville
        Senior Member
        • May 2010
        • 902

        Private property. If you don't have time to draw a pistol you won't have time to pull bear spray.
        Steve

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        • #5
          movie zombie
          Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jul 2007
          • 14644

          unless you're running with bear spray in hand.....perhaps easier to do than with a gun?
          "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
          Originally posted by The Shootist
          Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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          • #6
            eville
            Senior Member
            • May 2010
            • 902

            Isnt bear spray. The size of a fire extinguisher?
            Steve

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            • #7
              BonnieB
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 1969

              A. If there are cougars or bear, she shouldn't run alone.

              B. If she can't do legal concealed carry, she shouldn't carry.

              C. No typical concealed carry size weapon is going to stop a cougar or bear, except for scaring them with the sound of the shot.

              I think the lady is at risk out there, but being free to do such things is maybe why she's in St. Helena.

              There are some other runner's handgun references somewhere. I'll dig 'em up and post links.

              Does anybody have any practical experience of carrying a small handgun while running? I try to walk or run four miles, four days a week. I carry a knife but have never found a way to carry a handgun and it doesn't make sense for me to be always armed except when exercising. I have thought...




              It just occurred to me that her best carry item might be a very small boat air horn. Those things are LOUD. http://www.baitnhook.net/seasensemin...tsairhorn.aspx
              Last edited by BonnieB; 09-26-2012, 9:08 PM.
              WHAT I HAVE LEARNED SO FAR, MOSTLY THE HARD WAY

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              • #8
                movie zombie
                Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jul 2007
                • 14644

                mine isn't.....less than 12 inches.

                not the one i have but as an example at a little over 8 inches:

                Secure your home and protect your loved ones with the top-rated self-defense tools from The Home Security Superstore. Explore our wide selection of surveillance cameras, alarms, pepper sprays, stun guns, batons and more. Shop now for peace of mind and great prices!


                REI has a bunch and a chest holster as well. however, i'm not sure i'd want the thing bouncing around into my face........
                "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                Originally posted by The Shootist
                Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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                • #9
                  movie zombie
                  Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 14644

                  Bonnie, she's on private property and has no obligation to conceal carry.

                  personally i don't think a gun on a runner is a great option but could be wrong.

                  for a hiker? yeah, its one of the reasons i got my little smith & wesson model 60.....

                  but dang those cats are great at hiding, observing and so very very quick.

                  i hope she is NOT running at dusk or dawn.....prime feeding times.
                  "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                  Originally posted by The Shootist
                  Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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                  • #10
                    SilverTauron
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 5699

                    Originally posted by eville
                    She lives On a large piece of property in st Helena. She runs the fire roads every morning. There have been mountain lions sighted in the area. I told her she should run with a pistol. Any of you ladies carry while running?

                    What's your setup?

                    Thanks.
                    Perhaps us men have a tougher row to hoe in this area, but the "carry while running" part is a lot easier said than done.

                    I have yet to find the "tactical" pair of track pants which have belt loops in them.Without those, attaching a conventional holster is impossible-and without a holster any pistol placed in your waistband during a brisk run is going to hit the ground. When I run on the treadmill at the local gym, I do so unarmed. Few things will break the mood faster than a loaded 1911 falling onto a treadmill at 7.0 MPH.

                    The closest I can get to CCW in exercise attire is off-body carry in a backpack as I run, but the gun is of course inaccessible at that point.Against a human drawing it is a dicey proposition, and against an animal uninterested in stalling conversation off body is all but a useless method.

                    My words of advice:grab a gym membership.

                    PS:If you ladies come up with a way to effectively hide a handgun on the waist while running with those skin tight spandex setups yall wear, please pass on the secret.
                    The more prohibitions you have, the less virtuous people will be.
                    The more subsidies you have, the less self reliant people will be.
                    -Lao-Tzu, Tau Te Ching. 479 BCE

                    The 1911 may have been in wars for 100 years, but Masetro Bartolomeo Beretta was arming the world 400 years before John Browning was ever a wet dream.

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                    • #11
                      movie zombie
                      Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 14644

                      the good news is she doesn't have to hide it.
                      the bad news is that any place she puts it on her body is going to make it hard to draw, then aim, and then fire. and running with a loaded gun in hand just doesn't make a lot of sense nor does that seem safe at all.
                      the whole point of living in the bush is to be able to be out in it....of course, being out in the bush does mean some amount of risk.
                      the best advice above was from Bonnie: don't run alone.
                      heck, aren't their wild boars up there as well? those are really mean beasties.
                      "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                      Originally posted by The Shootist
                      Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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                      • #12
                        BonnieB
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1969

                        Yes, a woman running was actually killed by a cougar in the American River Canyon area (Auburn, I think) in 1994. She was alone.

                        Actually, cougar attacks are relatively rare in California, but who wants to beat the numbers? http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/lion_attacks_ca.html

                        A cougar with a cub was loose in my neighborhood in Fair Oaks, right by the American River Parkway, in the early 90's and was scaring us all to death with her screaming at night. (We thought some woman was being beaten at first. It sounded just like that.) The cougar didn't attack anyone as I remember, but she was killed in the process of being captured. Her cub was rescued, raised and eventually released.

                        I think it's a really bad idea to run alone anywhere there are deer present. In fact, I think it's a bad idea for women to run alone period. But I understand the freedom and solitude, I do.
                        Last edited by BonnieB; 09-27-2012, 12:47 AM.
                        WHAT I HAVE LEARNED SO FAR, MOSTLY THE HARD WAY

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                        • #13
                          Bugguts
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 1286

                          Originally posted by movie zombie
                          mine isn't.....less than 12 inches.

                          not the one i have but as an example at a little over 8 inches:

                          Secure your home and protect your loved ones with the top-rated self-defense tools from The Home Security Superstore. Explore our wide selection of surveillance cameras, alarms, pepper sprays, stun guns, batons and more. Shop now for peace of mind and great prices!


                          REI has a bunch and a chest holster as well. however, i'm not sure i'd want the thing bouncing around into my face........
                          Now I know you aren't a guy!!!

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                          • #14
                            BonnieB
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1969

                            (screaming laughing) Bugs, you are the BEST ! Too funny !
                            WHAT I HAVE LEARNED SO FAR, MOSTLY THE HARD WAY

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                            • #15
                              movie zombie
                              Cat-in-a Box/NRA Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 14644

                              glad i was able to prove it!
                              "The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound."-- as seen on a t-shirt
                              Originally posted by The Shootist
                              Just use it for an excuse to keep buying "her" guns till you find the right one...good way to check off your wanted to buy list with the idea of finding her the one she wants of course :D

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