So, I was at the range today

[BonnieB]

Maybe it's actually defective? Needs service? If it's a brand new gun the manufacturer should be able to help.

It can't be right for a brand new gun to mis-fire 80% of the time, can it?

[d4v0s]

My new Beretta PX4 Storm is amazing. Shot better than I ever have which is wonderful since it usually takes a round to get use to a new gun. Highly recommend this 9mm. Love, Love, love it!!!

Now - I have a Springfield EMP 1911 - the first 1911 style I have ever had. I will also say, you have to have three hands to disassemble the gun to clean it. Will never understand why it has to be like that but I am sure 1911 lovers would tell me why. The last time I used it, I cleaned it and put it away....Havent' used it in about 9 months. Last time I shot it, it was perfect. So I have already shot my new Beretta, XD-9 and saved the EMP for last.

Got ready to fire - boom, click - jammed. Cleared the jam - boom, click -jammed. Every other bullet jammed. I was tired anyway so I grabbed up my thing and went to pay and told the guy, this would have been a perfect shooting day until my EMP jammed repeatedly. He pulled back the rack and said the barrel was dry. He put a few drops here and few drops there and bam - the gun is now shooting fine. Apparently, you have to be overly nice to the 1911 even if you aren't shooting it.

Found this on the internet

How long has it been since you last lubricated your 1911? If it has been more than about three days, the piece is probably bone-dry. Oil evaporates; if you carry the gun muzzle down in a holster, gravity pulls the oil down the slide rails, around the bushing and out of the gun. Some folks tout the various teflon-based lubricants as the cure for this. In my experience, they don't last one bit longer than the natural products.

Every few days, take a minute or so to lube your 1911. Unload the gun; lock the slide to rear. Put a small drop of oil on each slide rail and let it run into the gun. If you have a Colt with the firing pin lock, you might want to take this opportunity to put a small drop of oil on the firing pin lock plunger in the slide. Lightly rub a thin coat of oil on the exposed barrel where it rides the bushing when the gun is cycling. Let the slide go forward and put one small drop of oil on the front of the barrel hood where it meets the front of the ejection port. Cycle the gun's action a few times, and you're in business. Frankly, I like to do a more leisurely job of lubing my 1911s in which I actually field strip the piece, but the quick-'n'-easy method I've just described will be sufficient.

I don't have to do this with any of my other guns - so to the future 1911 first time buyers - you are welcome lol - If I had that gun on my side and all hell broke loose, I would have been in a world of hurt.

Every day, you learn something new - like having a high maintenance gun that demands you oil it even when you haven't shot it. Still love the gun when it was shooting right - with a little oil, I am in love with it again

Your using the wrong oils. Wilson combat makes a grease and oil that I started using, they will not run or move even when firing. I run them on everything its terrific. I run grease on things that are high wear (slides), and oil on everything else. I kept my 1911 in a leather holster for over a year and never once found oil on it. Those clp cleaners always end up all over my hands and gun when I shoot, no thanks ill stick to oils that work.

[Mac Attack]

I let my carry 1911 sit for over a year without adding and oil or lube or unloading it. I know that a responsible person should shoot every month to keep up their skills but last year i spent more time shooting .22s than .45s. When i finally shot my 1911 after more than a year of being in condition one, dusty with lint and carried frequently. It did not faulter and ate everything I fed it.

I recall reading an article back in the 80s or 90 on the old Gun Tests magazine where they conducted a test of lubes and their effects on handguns. As a baseline they ran a bunch of handguns completely dry and if I recall all handguns fired dry met the standards for the test. Ultimately they reported that a properly lubed handgun runs better than a dry gun.

[vision1214]

Maybe it's actually defective? Needs service? If it's a brand new gun the manufacturer should be able to help.

It can't be right for a brand new gun to mis-fire 80% of the time, can it?

Once he put the oil on it - he shot rapid fire with 5 bullets, no jams. Maybe I didn't oil it properly the last time I cleaned it which was almost a year ago. Who knows but I am glad I was using it on the firing range than in a nasty situation. I will try it again tomorrow and see what happens.

Btw - I need to go to a 12 step program - I bought another gun today lol - It is a sickness I tell ya!!!!

[vision1214]

Thanks D4vO - I will try a different oil and make sure I use some frequently - this might be a quirk in the EMP that you have to oil it often whether you are shooting or not

[minichnk]

I love my EMP! If you think about it its a completely different animal compared to the PX4. The EMP is built tighter and to smaller tolerances. So small changes/ issues cause larger problems like jamming. Granted though a weapon should fire every time you pull the trigger. Anything put together by hand can and will have issues though this is not a excuse it is still something to consider. I was having issues with it loading and my BF filed down a microscopic bur on the feed ramp and it solved the problem. Im glad you were able to solve the problem and a rather easy resolution to boot.

The PX4 is more of a work horse/service weapon. Its like a glock you can drop it in the mud and not worry about it not functioning. There are much higher tolerances for change and built. Its like a custom fit suit vs a generic off the rack suite.

[onequickshift]

LOL onequick - maybe I should just display my pretty EMP 1911 - stainless with redwood grips and let my Beretta, XD9, Ruger 38 and the JUDGE do the talking

Nice sword redwood grips

I mean I like my guns being pretty (as my better half), I have many...to which he laments that I have TO many lol. But to just get work done, can't find any fault with m&p and glocks. Had to many issues with XD45s, but my xd9s were cherry And I rotate my Ruger SP101's into my carry around the house sometimes. But lately shield's been getting more carry