One for my daughter

[EsquibelP]

Hey fellow members, my daughter needs a gun for self protection. She has had a messy divorce and her ex hasn't taken it well. She has been receiving threatening messages and phone calls from him and she fears that he is stalking her. She is a real estate dealer and has to travel a lot and I fear for her safety. She has a personal security app installed in her phone which will send panic calls in case of an emergency but she also wishes to buy a gun for an extra safety. Can someone recommend a good dealer?

[emtmark]

Any ffl will do bigger concern is her ability and willingness to carry safely and shoot straight


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[desertjosh]

Where is she located?

[71MUSTY]

Where does she live, is it in a CCW friendly county? Even if it is the wait is long .

[Garv]

Go to a range, rent several guns and see what she shoots comfortably.

[Blade Gunner]

Having a handgun she can proficiently operate is the first step. While this will work at home, CA laws are insanely restrictive on other places she can carry it and transport it without a CCW. Basically unless you're on private property with the owners permission, a hand gun must be unloaded in a locked container separate from ammunition at all times.

[SonofWWIIDI]

Having a handgun she can proficiently operate is the first step. While this will work at home, CA laws are insanely restrictive on other places she can carry it and transport it without a CCW. Basically unless you're on private property with the owners permission, a hand gun must be unloaded in a locked container separate from ammunition at all times.

While prudent to avoid any possible hassles if contacted by LE, IIRC you can have a loaded magazine in the same locked case as a gun, but it may not be inserted in the mag well...essentially no ammuntion may by in a position for the gun to fire.

Edit:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=103660

[gl0ckc0ma]

Hey fellow members, my daughter needs a gun for self protection. She has had a messy divorce and her ex hasn't taken it well. She has been receiving threatening messages and phone calls from him and she fears that he is stalking her. She is a real estate dealer and has to travel a lot and I fear for her safety. She has a personal security app installed in her phone which will send panic calls in case of an emergency but she also wishes to buy a gun for an extra safety. Can someone recommend a good dealer?

I think this situation would call for a preemptive strike. Go on the offensive and have a little talk with the ex-son-in-law and make it clear that if a hair on your daughter is harmed, a hellstorm will be rained down upon him. That's just me though.

[Cunha]

Try a bunch of things.

Consider the use. If she can fire a smith and wesson 642 or 442 accurately and the physical pain of doing so isn't unbearable, they are great guns for carry.

If she doesn't mind something that is heavier, a GP100 will have basically no recoil with .38's and is easy to load and fire, no racking of the slide required.

If she can get comfortable racking and otherwise manipulating an auto and she likes them, any modern 9 will probably do, so whatever she likes.

[BonnieB]

Yet again, the men are answering a question about women and handguns in THE WOMEN's FORUM. You would think, since OP had the sense to post here, that the women would be the best source.

For this particular post, it will be important to deal with local CCW rules, no fudging here at all. If no CCW is possible, it's still worth it for the woman in question to learn to shoot and obtain her own choice of gun, because she's allowed to carry on her private property or in her workplace, if the boss agrees. And a shotgun is always a good thing in home defense.

Here are some thoughts that I've posted over, and over and over, and most people have agreed, over time.

BonnieB's Tried and True Dissertation on Buying a Gun for Your Wife / GF / Sister / Mother

For the 900th time ! Don't buy a gun for your woman! Let her be a adult and run the process herself.

WOMEN WHO ARE BUYING THEIR FIRST GUN SHOULD DO THESE STEPS INDEPENDENTLY.

She does a handgun safety training with practice firing. NRA's Women on Target is super, especially if there are women instructors.

She commits to practicing at least once a month. If you don't practice you might as well not bother.

She rents several guns in different calibers and tries them out. I know this can get expensive, but it's still cheaper than buying the wrong gun. She selects a caliber that feels comfortable to her. Bigger is not necessarily better, but she's a grown-up and can probably handle something bigger than .22

She schedules one or more full-out NRA handgun training session with a reputable instructor, preferably one on one, preferably a woman. Unless the hubby, BF, etc is a certified NRA Instructor, he should be home watching the ball game that day. Men, do NOT try to teach her to shoot yourself. Teaching a woman to shoot is like teaching a woman to drive and is a relationship-killer.

She goes to a local gun shop, on a Thursday at 2pm (always slow then) with her American Express card visible in her hand and handles as many guns as possible. This is where the hubby if any, BF, SO, sits in the car and listens to the ball game. ( Here's an edit, with a tip of the hat to CSACannoneer, as below: Depending on the woman and her knowledge of firearms at that time, she might (I say "might") be better off bringing a neutral 3rd party with her so that she doesn't get pressured to buy something that isn't for her. The neutral third party should be either a knowledgeable female shooter or a certified instructor who only has a professional relationship with her.). If she doesn't like how she is treated, she leaves and goes to another gun store. That is why she walks in with American Express Card held high, so the sales staff knows she's serious. I have favorite salesmen, and I always get immediate attention in my LGS, because they know I'm a serious buyer if I'm there at all.

She looks at several guns she likes, that feel good in her hand, that is the right caliber to do the job, whatever that job is (self defense, Saturday range dates, etc). She asks for intelligent discussion from the sales staff. No supportive attention or no intelligent help? Walk out of the store! If she finds one or two guns she likes, she summons hubby, BF, SO, whatever, from the car for final approval (if absolutely necessary), and congratulations. Then he goes back to the car and the game. She pays for the gun with her own money.

We've said this again and again. She can handle this. She can be an adult and arrange her own class, preview guns at a gun shop and she should especially pay for it with her own money. I completely support dads, hubbies, BF's and interested friends to go on rental-shooting trips. I do not support them deciding what caliber 'she can handle', dominating the buying process, teaching her how to shoot or poaching on her expensive professional training sessions. If your your wife, GF, sister, mother or best friend doesn't want to do this totally alone, that's OK. You can give gentle advice, support and encouragement. But the more she does alone using the above process, the more ownership she'll have of her guns and the more likely she will be to self-defend or go to the range with you.

What is the proof? Many of us who don't have husbands, BF's, etc., have handled this just fine, all alone, with some advice from instructors and non-related friends. Honest. Tried and True.

[movie zombie]

I would add that what feels good in HER hand at the gun shop may not feel good in HER hand at the range. touch and handle as many guns as possible but don't buy until trying it out.

small is not better: more kick.
lightweight is not better: more kick.

if this is really to be her gun then she needs to do the work to make it happen. doesn't mean there can't be input but if she is the one threatened then time to step up her game and take responsibility for her own safety. if she doesn't have one already the first step is a TRO.

if in the SF Bay Area, Eddy's in Mountain View if very female friendly re assisting with gun purchases.

again, she has to be involved to make sure it fits her hand and she can handle it.

[californiagal]

Excellent post Bonnie

[19hugeracks57]

I know this is the ladies forum ,when my daughter wanted a pistol of her own., had a hard choice to do. what I think she needs and what she feels the most comfortable to shoot with.i could talk till I was blue in the face.but then I got smart.being an OAKTREE member,i remembered that you pay for ammo and it is free rental for the guns.so 100 rnds of 9mm and 9 guns later she decided on a 92fs....not my choice..hers ...and has been enjoying it since

[micro911]

My daughter was trained with a Glock 17. I bought her a Glock 19 gen 4 and changed the mag release to the other side as she is a lefty. She loves it.

[Big Jake]

I think this situation would call for a preemptive strike. Go on the offensive and have a little talk with the ex-son-in-law and make it clear that if a hair on your daughter is harmed, a hellstorm will be rained down upon him. That's just me though.

This for sure. As a father that would not go over well with me if someone was threatening my daughter!