DOJ approved list

[wchutt]

Is there a way to further define on-roster pistols which are legal to sell? Some of the firearms on the list have a model #, those are clear, but when it is a generic name on the list such as "Glock 22 Steel/Polymer" how can I tell which it is refering to specifically? I know Gen 4's are out, but are gen 2 still OK?

[lockandloadllc]

The easiest way to know which one that is approved is when you look at a list in DROS, it gives the most information about which model. I believe the only one not allowed is the Gen4.

[halifax]

And the ones made in the USA. Some of the non-black ones too.

[kemasa]

I suspect that the Gen2 is not really listed since each version has to be listed separately. If you have a question, you can call and ask, but not all of the people who answer the phone know who the person who deals with the certified list is.

Remember slight changes causes a firearm to be dropped from the list, so it is not really possible to have the list be two different versions. They might not have even considered older versions.

[wchutt]

The easiest way to know which one that is approved is when you look at a list in DROS, it gives the most information about which model. I believe the only one not allowed is the Gen4.

I don't see any more info there than on the list.

[wchutt]

I suspect that the Gen2 is not really listed since each version has to be listed separately. If you have a question, you can call and ask, but not all of the people who answer the phone know who the person who deals with the certified list is.

Remember slight changes causes a firearm to be dropped from the list, so it is not really possible to have the list be two different versions. They might not have even considered older versions.

That is what I assumed, but I was hoping that there was a better way than calling each time and going through the crap shoot of who you are talking to. Don't really know why I would have expected clarity...

[kemasa]

That is what I assumed, but I was hoping that there was a better way than calling each time and going through the crap shoot of who you are talking to. Don't really know why I would have expected clarity...

The CA DOJ has more information that what they make available on the web page or the DES, but for some government reasoning, they don't make that available.

It is not a crap shoot of who you are talking to since there is one person who deals with the certified list and that is who you have to talk to. The problem is being able to talk to that person. The people who answer the phone don't typically know all of the issues, but more importantly they don't have access to ALL of the information.

The other option is look to see if the firearm seems to match and go with it. You can say that it was listed because it matched, then it is the CA DOJ's problem, although they can harass you over it. I have heard that FFLs have transferred firearms which are not really on the certified list (ie. pink Sig Mosquito claimed to be the two-tone), but have never heard of anything coming of it. I personally would not do it, but some seem to be willing to take the risk.