Returning gun after DROS?

[narbilistic]

I bought a gen4 glock 19 from gunbrokers. I asked the FFL ahead of time before I bought it that they will ship to my CA FFL (who does accept gen4's). It's my first time buying a pistol, I go in and DROS it and paperwork says gen4. I go today after my 10 day wait period and asked about the SSE for it, the FFL says it doesn't need it because it's a gen3. They told me to contact my seller to sort it out. I talked to my seller they said they only sent me a gen3 because gen4's are illegal in CA and I explain my FFL will accept gen4s. So they're willing to send the gen4 after I send the gen3 back.

Can someone give me the procedures I should take to do the exchange?
So would the 30 wait period before I can DROS again apply?
What are the other ramifications can there be, like: transfer fee, taxes?

I'm really trying to pick up a sig p226 MK25 before the years end due to the offlist items. But if the 30 day wait period applies, I'm pretty much fubar'd.. or no?

[acespawnshop]

Ok, so you DROS'd a gun without checking if it was the one you purchased or not? If so that mistake is on you. If the selling FFL DROS'd you the firearm that was shipped to them its not their fault. If it was supposed to be a gen 4 and the receiving FFL was going to do an SSE conversion for you I would have imagined that process would have come up before you started your DROS.

The FFL can cancel that DROS but I don't know if that will change the 1-30 law and if you would be allowed to make another application to purchase a handgun. I believe the PC reads no person may make application to purchase more than 1 handgun in 30 days. I will look for PC regarding this for you.

Other ramifications? Like transfer fee and taxes and dros? Yea, you should have to pay those again, the FFL you shipped the firearm to didn't make any mistakes. They DROS'd the gun that you had shipped to them. If it wasn't the one you wanted that should have been addressed before you DROS'd your pistol.

[acespawnshop]

Also the firearm is not registered to you until the selling dealer clicks 'deliver firearm' in the DES. Until that point the firearm still belongs to the FFL and they can cancel the DROS and send it back for you. And charge a fee accordingly to do so. It costs time and money to send somebody to go to the post office and ship your gun back I would imagine they would charge a nominal fee for this service. I would being that it was a mistake made by you not the selling FFL. And to be clear when I say the selling FFL I mean the FFL where you did your DROS, not whatever FFL the pistol originally came from.

[Condorguns]

I agree this will all depend on if you took delivery of the firearm after the 10 day.

[narbilistic]

Yeah, I didn't fully inspect the gun when I did the paperwork (first time handgun purchase). I just believed what the paperwork said and the DROS paper work said Gen4. The FFL from gunsbroker was the one that made the mistake. I did take delivery today and was notified it was a gen3 when they finished all the paperwork because I asked when I needed to do the walk out of the store and back in for the SSE that's when he said gen3.

[SkyHawk]

Unbelievable the Seller F'd you like this. Sold you one thing and sent you another with no heads up or anything. I would rip them a new one in the reviews, contact gunbroker admins and ask them wtf. Seller should pay for return shipping, and I would also try and stick them up for your DROS fee, although that is on you for going through with it after inspection.

If it cost you a 1-in-30, those are priceless right now with SSE about to end as we know it. Did you pay with a credit card or money order? If CC, I would dispute it tomorrow.

I'm all for giving people a chance to work things out, but a seller just deciding to send you Gen 3 when you bought Gen 4, with no input from you - is asinine at best and fraud at worst.

All that said - who buys a Gen 4 Glock on gunbroker and not from their local FFL? How does that pencil out in your favor, even if you didn't get screwed?

[Powder_Keg]

Wow, that's a pretty big quagmire.

I'm not sure, but you might have to wait 30 days before you start your next DROS?

You will also need to make sure they remove the Gen3 as a handgun registered to you. Can a dealer transfer take care of that? Hopefully the selling dealer will eat the shipping and transfer fees.

Maybe some more experienced forum member could comment and give you a better direction. Good luck with sorting it out.

[Condorguns]

First where on the DROP does it say gen 4?
Because you took delivery the gun is now yours. You can still return it to the seller, but you have lost your 30 day.

[narbilistic]

Unbelievable the Seller F'd you like this. Sold you one thing and sent you another with no heads up or anything. I would rip them a new one in the reviews, contact gunbroker admins and ask them wtf. Seller should pay for return shipping, and I would also try and stick them up for your DROS fee, although that is on you for going through with it after inspection.

If it cost you a 1-in-30, those are priceless right now with SSE about to end as we know it. Did you pay with a credit card or money order? If CC, I would dispute it tomorrow.

I'm all for giving people a chance to work things out, but a seller just deciding to send you Gen 3 when you bought Gen 4, with no input from you - is asinine at best and fraud at worst.

All that said - who buys a Gen 4 Glock on gunbroker and not from their local FFL? How does that pencil out in your favor, even if you didn't get screwed?

They did offer to send me a gen4, but the biggest factor that can't be undone is the 30 wait day. His reasoning for sending me a gen3 because he thought gen4's were illegal in CA. I don't know how the dispute via CC would work when it comes to firearms.

[narbilistic]

First where on the DROP does it say gen 4?
Because you took delivery the gun is now yours. You can still return it to the seller, but you have lost your 30 day.

It the DROP under Model it says G19 Gen4 and Transaction Type Exempt Handgun.

[Condorguns]

Ah, ok. Strange that the FFL here would DROS a gen 3 as a gen 4.

[RevrendEarl]

Don't trip. You still have time. I'll show you how. After the 30 days is up do your "verified" gen4 glock. Not to worry about the mk25. I just had my ffl order me one with 15 Rd mags that I have to block. No biggie and no sse!

[narbilistic]

Don't trip. You still have time. I'll show you how. After the 30 days is up do your "verified" gen4 glock. Not to worry about the mk25. I just had my ffl order me one with 15 Rd mags that I have to block. No biggie and no sse!

Can you further elaborate the "verified" part?

From all the responses and talking to a buddy who works at a FFL, it seems like I'll be better off just accepting the gen3 and loss of 30 days and just just save for the sig.

[ugimports]

Can you further elaborate the "verified" part?

From all the responses and talking to a buddy who works at a FFL, it seems like I'll be better off just accepting the gen3 and loss of 30 days and just just save for the sig.

Well what you have is effed up.

The FFL who DROSd you the gun has it in AFS as a Gen4 even though you have a Gen3. Did they get the serial number right?

I do not know a single FFL who would DROS a Gen3 Glock as an Exempt Handgun and then write down Gen4. This means not only did you not realize it was not a Gen4, but your FFL who supposedly does SSEs had no idea what he was holding either. That is just strange.

[RevrendEarl]

verified

Can you further elaborate the "verified" part?

From all the responses and talking to a buddy who works at a FFL, it seems like I'll be better off just accepting the gen3 and loss of 30 days and just just save for the sig.

Im saying verify that it is gen 4 glock before you accept it.