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  • DEPUTYBILL
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 873

    What is considered "Gunsmithing"

    For FFL dealers, what would be considered as modifications to a gun you sold that would require you to be a "gunsmith"?
    Example:
    You sell a Sig 226 to a customer.
    Are any of these modifications requiring a license from CA. DOJ/ ATF

    Putting on a different set of grips
    Putting on a set of night sights
    Changing calibers (say a 40 to 357 Sig) just a barrel swap.
    Changing the trigger
    Putting a SRT kit into the gun
    replacing worn springs, or parts

    I guess my question is when does a FFL gun seller, became a gunsmith?
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    DEPUTYBILL
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 873

    So anything you do "while he waits" is OK?

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    • #3
      Tyke8319
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Nov 2013
      • 2105

      Q: Is a license needed to engage in the business of engraving, customizing, refinishing or repairing firearms?

      Yes. A person conducting such activities as a business is considered to be a gunsmith within the definition of a dealer.

      [27 CFR 478.11]

      27 CFR 478.11 - Meaning of terms.
      (d) Gunsmith. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;

      However, I know o no manufactured, parts dealer, supplier, etc., that does not require an FFL in order to sell you parts (some are restricted to FFL's) unless you want to pay retail for the parts. supplies, etc.
      American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

      So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
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      • #4
        Tyke8319
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Nov 2013
        • 2105

        Here is a web site that may help further:

        American soldier by choice. Made in America by the Grace of God.

        So, now it is ironic that the State whittles away at the right of its citizens to defend themselves from the possible oppression of their State.
        Judge Roger T. Benitez
        LCM's ruled legal 3/29/2019

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        • #5
          Tallship
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 609

          I think you're asking the wrong question. As an 01 FFL holder, you are allowed to do gunsmithing. What you can't do is "manufacture", which is making changes to the gun before it's sold. So in your original question, you can do any of those things for the customer as long as you have delivered the gun to him and he has taken it out of your shop.
          "We got too many gangsters doin' dirty deeds, too much corruption and crime in the streets. It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground...."

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