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**Whiterabbit** · 08-22-2014, 9:39 AM

nope. Once a rifle, always a rifle. (excluding specific single shots)

**ke6guj** · 08-22-2014, 9:50 AM

Originally posted by Whiterabbit

nope. Once a rifle, always a rifle. (excluding specific single shots)

its not a rifle until it is built as a rifle. (or DROSed as a long gun).

AFAIK, there is nothing that would prohibit the FFL from DROSing a virgin AR receiver (it isn't a rifle receiver until it is documented as such) as a pistol reeiver to a roster-exempt person.

**Tyke8319** · 08-22-2014, 10:44 AM

Your question is several questions:
1. It wouldn't be Peace Officer Exempt unless he/she produced a letter from the head of his/her agency indicating the firearm was going to be used in an official capacity. As a retired 30 year LEO I seriously doubt at AR pistol would ever be used by an LEO in an official capacity, but stranger things have happened.
2. Yes a lower can be fabricated into a rifle or pistol and should be registered as such.

**ke6guj** · 08-22-2014, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Tyke8319

Your question is several questions:
1. It wouldn't be Peace Officer Exempt unless he/she produced a letter from the head of his/her agency indicating the firearm was going to be used in an official capacity. As a retired 30 year LEO I seriously doubt at AR pistol would ever be used by an LEO in an official capacity, but stranger things have happened.

there is no need for a letter to claim LEO-exemption against the roster. the letter is only needed to bypass the 10-day wait.

State Exemptions for Authorized Peace Officers

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/exemptpo

Non-Roster Handgun (Unsafe Handgun) Exemptions Criminal penalties may attach to persons who sell, purchase, give, or otherwise transfer a non-roster handgun. However, there are three groups of public entities that may purchase non-roster handguns. The prerequisites for purchase, the eligibility of sworn members of the entities to purchase non-roster handguns for personal use, and the restrictions on resale vary. For complete details please see California Penal Code section 32000, et seq.

**Tyke8319** · 08-22-2014, 12:31 PM

My error!!

That changed without my knowledge.

**geo5120** · 08-23-2014, 5:57 AM

What about the DOJ requirement for the shipment approval letter which states what is being shipped? Long gun/handgun and how many?

**kemasa** · 08-24-2014, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by ke6guj

its not a rifle until it is built as a rifle. (or DROSed as a long gun).

The CA paperwork does not taint the firearm as being a long gun or not.

**biglou** · 08-24-2014, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by geo5120

Can an active duty LEO purchase a AR rifle lower and dros it as a pistol lower as an exempted purchase? Thanks

Yes it can. I have one still new in the wrap registered as a pistol. Unless the law has changed from 3 years ago.

**ke6guj** · 08-24-2014, 3:11 PM

Originally posted by kemasa

The CA paperwork does not taint the firearm as being a long gun or not.

I know this is the case federally, but do we have any documentation from CA that they wouldn't consider a long gun DROSed receiver built into a pistol to be an SBR?

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