Large capacity mag permit good cause statement

[Mvsenna]

Has anyone written a GCS for the Large Cap Mag permit this year and gotten approved? If yes, any ideas on a "good cause" will be great. After reading the "Notice" below the application at the CA DOJ site, sound to me that they are only approving the permit if you are going to import/export. It also states that a permit is not required if you're selling to an "authorized person"(LEO, etc). Thank you in advance.

[pterrell]

I can say with 99.9% certainty that the only people to get GCS that were approved were FFLs that did a lot of business with LEOs.

Unless you fit in that category, you won't be getting one.

[kemasa]

I can say with 99.9% certainty that the only people to get GCS that were approved were FFLs that did a lot of business with LEOs.

Unless you fit in that category, you won't be getting one.

Sorry, but you are wrong and I am 100% certain of that.

Being able to buy and sell firearms with high capacity magazines from distributors so that you can remove the magazine and sell the firearm to a CA resident is acceptable. Also buying and selling firearms out of state is also a reason since you can not compete if you are limited to 10 round magazines in a state in which there is no magazine limit. You can also import magazine and permanently convert them to 10 round magazines for sale to CA residents. There are many things besides sales to LEOs.

[Mvsenna]

Thank you kemasa

[jdben92883]

Can't help with the GCS, but I don't think the mag. permit is too hard to get. There's a new home-based FFL in my neighborhood that does very small amount of volume and no specific work with LEO that got one. His primary purpose for obtaining one was to be able to use standard-capacity magazines himself.

I can say with 99.9% certainty that the only people to get GCS that were approved were FFLs that did a lot of business with LEOs.

Unless you fit in that category, you won't be getting one.

[ugimports]

Can't help with the GCS, but I don't think the mag. permit is too hard to get. There's a new home-based FFL in my neighborhood that does very small amount of volume and no specific work with LEO that got one. His primary purpose for obtaining one was to be able to use standard-capacity magazines himself.

I doubt that was his good cause statement

It also states that a permit is not required if you're selling to an "authorized person"(LEO, etc).

And it's true you don't need hi-cap mag permit to SELL to LEO, but if you don't have the permit how do you intend on acquiring that magazine to sell to them?

[Funtimes]

Good info here. I'm waiting on the COE right now.

[kemasa]

And it's true you don't need hi-cap mag permit to SELL to LEO, but if you don't have the permit how do you intend on acquiring that magazine to sell to them?

The FFL could buy them from CA FFLs and others in CA, although most will most likely not want to sell them to a FFL who does not have a permit, even though it is allowed.

[Burbur]

I was trying to buy a pistol for a roster exempt purchaser; wholesaler couldn't send it to me with the included standard mags and refused to keep the mags at my loss. Seems like good cause to me, really should appeal my denial.

[kemasa]

I was trying to buy a pistol for a roster exempt purchaser; wholesaler couldn't send it to me with the included standard mags and refused to keep the mags at my loss. Seems like good cause to me, really should appeal my denial.

Just curious, what did you write for your good cause which got denied?

That is a reason for needing the permit.

[Burbur]

Just curious, what did you write for your good cause which got denied?

That is a reason for needing the permit.

Good question, my partner submitted it after we discussed it, but without my review. Hasn't been a priority, but probably should be...

Will share when I get my hands on it.

[JeffM]

From the application itself:

"California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5480, subdivision (b), states that no permit shall be issued to any person who
fails to establish “good cause” for issuance of the permit and that the permit would not endanger public safety. California
Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5480, subdivision (b)(1) requires a statement from the applicant that a large-capacity
magazine marketplace exists for their dealership. Please attach a good cause statement that establishes the specific
reasons that a large-capacity magazine marketplace exists for your dealership and that the permit would not endanger public
safety."

So a little cut and paste gets you:

"A large-capacity magazine marketplace exists for my business as my business sells firearms and firearm accessories to Law Enforcement Officers and Agencies, which includes large capacity magazines. The permit would not endanger public safety as my business is in full compliance with The Dangerous Weapons' Control Law commencing with Penal Code section 12000 relative to large capacity magazines and record keeping requirements specified in Title 11 Section 5483 of the California Code of Regulations."

[mike21]

I just got my CFD number in the mail yesterday and moving on with the process to get my business up and running. I'm filling out the high cap magazine application and came across the GCS needed to attach to the app. I wasn't sure if all they needed was something typed up as to why I feel I should get approved. I think the final post in this thread right above mine pretty much summed up what I was thinking of doing. Hope I can get the approved soon.

[Baboosh]

I think my GCS was that I wanted to sell guns, not CA wimpy, *****, neutered commie CA guns either.

ok ok ok, maybe I worded it a little better than that.

[Gunsmith Dan]

Hey don't forget us Gunsmiths since magazines need to be repaired from time to time as well, a valid reason as well.