Safety certificate for long guns?

[meritman]

I seem to recall a new law which stated that starting January 2015 a safety certificate for rifles and shotguns will be required. Can someone confirm this for me? Thanks.

[ke6guj]

yes.

[Quiet]

yes.

Penal Code 31615
(a) A person shall not do either of the following:
(1) Purchase or receive any firearm, except an antique firearm, without a valid firearm safety certificate, except that in the case of a handgun, an unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
(2) Sell, deliver, loan, or transfer any firearm, except an antique firearm, to any person who does not have a valid firearm safety certificate, except that in the case of a handgun, an unexpired handgun safety certificate may be used.
(b) Any person who violates subdivision (a) is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(c) The provisions of this section are cumulative, and shall not be construed as restricting the application of any other law. However, an act or omission punishable in different ways by different provisions of this code shall not be punished under more than one provision.
(d) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2015.

[meritman]

OK, confirmed. Thanks much.

[Burbur]

So, how will this impact our ability to perform safe handling demonstrations and issue the new and improved HSC w/ rifles?

Will everyone have to go through new training and certification in order to apply the current process to long guns?

[Quiet]

So, how will this impact our ability to perform safe handling demonstrations and issue the new and improved HSC w/ rifles?

Will everyone have to go through new training and certification in order to apply the current process to long guns?

There will be new training/certifications. [PC 31615]

The Firearm Safety Certificate (FSC) is good for all types of firearms.

The Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) is only good for handguns.
Valid HSC will still be accepted after 01-01-2015, but no new ones will be issued. They are to be expired out over time.

[dachan]

The Firearm Safety Certificate (FSC) is good for all types of firearms.

The Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) is only good for handguns.
Valid HSC will still be accepted after 01-01-2015, but no new ones will be issued. They are to be expired out over time.

Folks whose HSC expire this year get screwed. They have to renew their HSC to purchase handguns this year but really only get 1years use out of it before needing to get a FSC next year to buy long guns.

[bajadan]

Might be dumb question. But how do you perform a safe rifle demonstration with a stripped lower… This might get interesting.

[dachan]

Might be dumb question. But how do you perform a safe rifle demonstration with a stripped lower… This might get interesting.

Don't get the question, law requiring a HSC or FSC has nothing to do with the safe handling demo.

[TURNKEY13]

Anyone know if 03FFL/COE holders will need the cert too?

[Josh3239]

Well good to finally know what to actually tell my customers. CA is crazy.

[Quiet]

Folks whose HSC expire this year get screwed. They have to renew their HSC to purchase handguns this year but really only get 1years use out of it before needing to get a FSC next year to buy long guns.

Until the HSC expires, it will still be good for handguns only.
However, in order to get a long gun, they would need to obtain a FSC.

[Quiet]

Anyone know if 03FFL/COE holders will need the cert too?

No and Yes. [PC 31700(a)(6)]
If the firearm is a C&R, then no.
If the firearm is not a C&R, then yes.



Penal Code 31700
(a) The following persons, properly identified, are exempted from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615:
(1) Any active or honorably retired peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2.
(2) Any active or honorably retired federal officer or law enforcement agent.
(3) Any reserve peace officer, as defined in Section 832.6.
(4) Any person who has successfully completed the course of training specified in Section 832.
(5) A firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, who is acting in the course and scope of that person's activities as a person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive.
(6) A federally licensed collector who is acquiring or being loaned a firearm that is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the department pursuant to Section 26710.
(7) A person to whom a firearm is being returned, where the person receiving the firearm is the owner of the firearm.
(8) A family member of a peace officer or deputy sheriff from a local agency who receives a firearm pursuant to Section 50081 of the Government Code.
(9) Any individual who has a valid concealed weapons permit issued pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 26150) of Division 5.
(10) An active or honorably retired member of the United States Armed Forces, the National Guard, the Air National Guard, or the active reserve components of the United States, where individuals in those organizations are properly identified. For purposes of this section, proper identification includes the Armed Forces Identification Card or other written documentation certifying that the individual is an active or honorably retired member.
(11) Any person who is authorized to carry loaded firearms pursuant to Section 26025 or 26030.
(12) Persons who are the holders of a special weapons permit issued by the department pursuant to Section 32650 or 33300, pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 18900) of Chapter 1 of Division 5 of Title 2, or pursuant to Article 4 (commencing with Section 32700) of Chapter 6 of this division.
(b) The following persons who take title or possession of a firearm by operation of law in a representative capacity, until or unless they transfer title ownership of the firearm to themselves in a personal capacity, are exempted from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615:
(1) The executor or administrator of an estate.
(2) A secured creditor or an agent or employee thereof when the firearms are possessed as collateral for, or as a result of, or an agent or employee thereof when the firearms are possessed as collateral for, or as a result of, a default under a security agreement under the Commercial Code.
(3) A levying officer, as defined in Section 481.140, 511.060, or 680.260 of the Code of Civil Procedure.
(4) A receiver performing the functions of a receiver.
(5) A trustee in bankruptcy performing the duties of a trustee.
(6) An assignee for the benefit of creditors performing the functions of an assignee.
(c) A person, validly identified, who has been issued a valid hunting license that is unexpired or that was issued for the hunting season immediately preceding the calendar year in which the person takes title of possession of a firearm is exempt from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615, except as to handguns.
(d) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2015.

[dachan]

Until the HSC expires, it will still be good for handguns only.
However, in order to get a long gun, they would need to obtain a FSC.

Point is citizens need to get a HSC this year and then a FSC next year when one FSC this year would have worked. Law went into effect this year, but DOJ can't get their act together and start issuing FSC until next year, wasting citizen's time and money.

[Artema]

Doesn't this seem like clear infringement?