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  • Solo_925
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 72

    Need some wisdom for private purchase between states.

    Hello, so I found a private seller located in Fl and I currently reside in northern Ca. I have a local shop willing to accept the firearm with the use of the ffl transfer form. The seller was told at his local shop that they couldn't help because they have never filled out the CFLC, they do however have a ffl.

    With that said I've been doing a lot of research and found this
    California Firearms Licensee Check (CFLC) Program Are there any costs or fees to obtain a Firearms Shipment Approval number from the Department of Jusice (DOJ)? I am not a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) but I want to ship a firearm from another state to an FFL in California. Do I need to obtain a Firearm Verification Number before shipping a firearm to California? I am an FFL in California. How does the CFLC program affect me? Are any California FFLs exempt from the CFLC verification approval requirement? I am an FFL located outside of California.

    Which #2 seems to say an individual can ship to an FFL in CA.

    He was told they couldn't help because.
    "California Penal Code Section 27555 prohibits all Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs), other than Type 03 or 06 FFLs, from shipping firearms to an FFL in California unless, prior to delivery, the FFL intending to deliver, sell or transfer the firearms obtains a verification approval number from the California Department of Justice (CADOJ) Bureau of Firearms. This includes transfers that occur at gun shows.

    The verification approval number, which the Bureau of Firearms provides in a Firearms Shipment Approval letter, confirms that the intended recipient of the firearm shipment is properly licensed and listed in the state's database of persons/entities authorized to receive firearm shipments. If the intended CA FFL recipient is not listed in the state's database, the transaction will result in a Do Not Ship letter, and it is a crime for the intended recipient to receive the firearms (Penal Code Section 28465)."

    Can anyone please help me with some incite on what is the correct information? Shouldn't two ffls be able to transfer a firearm between states as long as the firearm is legal in Ca? Or can the seller ship directly to my ffl along as he fills out the ffl transfer form?

    Thanks so much for the help,
    George
    Last edited by Solo_925; 01-20-2014, 9:19 PM.
  • #2
    ugimports
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2009
    • 6250

    Originally posted by Solo_925
    Hello, so I found a private seller located in Fl and I currently reside in northern Ca. I have a local shop willing to accept the firearm with the use of the ffl transfer form. The seller was told at his local shop that they couldn't help because they have never filled out the CFLC, they do however have a ffl.

    With that said I've been doing a lot of research and found this
    California Firearms Licensee Check (CFLC) Program Are there any costs or fees to obtain a Firearms Shipment Approval number from the Department of Jusice (DOJ)? I am not a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL) but I want to ship a firearm from another state to an FFL in California. Do I need to obtain a Firearm Verification Number before shipping a firearm to California? I am an FFL in California. How does the CFLC program affect me? Are any California FFLs exempt from the CFLC verification approval requirement? I am an FFL located outside of California.

    Which #2 seems to say an individual can ship to an FFL in CA.

    He was told they couldn't help because.
    "California Penal Code Section 27555 prohibits all Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs), other than Type 03 or 06 FFLs, from shipping firearms to an FFL in California unless, prior to delivery, the FFL intending to deliver, sell or transfer the firearms obtains a verification approval number from the California Department of Justice (CADOJ) Bureau of Firearms. This includes transfers that occur at gun shows.

    The verification approval number, which the Bureau of Firearms provides in a Firearms Shipment Approval letter, confirms that the intended recipient of the firearm shipment is properly licensed and listed in the state's database of persons/entities authorized to receive firearm shipments. If the intended CA FFL recipient is not listed in the state's database, the transaction will result in a Do Not Ship letter, and it is a crime for the intended recipient to receive the firearms (Penal Code Section 28465)."

    Can anyone please help me with some incite on what is the correct information? Shouldn't two ffls be able to transfer a firearm between states as long as the firearm is legal in Ca? Or can the seller ship directly to my ffl along as he fills out the ffl transfer form?

    Thanks so much for the help,
    George
    1) What FFL Transfer Form are you referring to? Is this specific to your FFL in Northern California? There's no "standard" FFL transfer form.

    2) Yes the FFL outside of CA can indeed ship to CA. If they have never filled out the CFLC info before you can direct them to these instructions:

    or


    The process for them to sign-up shouldn't take more than about 5 minutes.

    3) The private seller outside of CA can ship direct to a CA FFL if the CA FFL will accept private shipments. Some don't as a matter of policy vs. legality.
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