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  • #16
    iamnoone
    Banned
    • Jan 2014
    • 32

    Here's a better sign." If everyone just treated guns like personal property and ignored all theses rules, they couldn't do a thing about it. "

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    • #17
      halifax
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4440

      (h) “IF A FIREARM YOU OWN OR POSSESS IS LOST OR STOLEN, YOU MUST REPORT THE LOSS OR THEFT TO A LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WHERE THE LOSS OR THEFT OCCURRED WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THE TIME YOU KNEW OR REASONABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THE FIREARM HAD BEEN LOST OR STOLEN.”
      (i) “IF YOU FALSELY REPORT THAT A FIREARM YOU OWN OR POSSESS IS LOST OR STOLEN, YOU FACE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION AND LOSS OF YOUR RIGHT TO POSSESS A FIREARM OR AMMUNITION FOR 10 YEARS.”
      These are two different signs in the RK Enterprises kit
      Jim


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      • #18
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        Those two signs are not required signs. (d) was added in the middle and the previous ones were renamed. The bold entry is the new sign requirement.

        These are the required signs:

        CA PC 26835. A licensee shall post conspicuously within the licensed
        premises the following warnings in block letters not less than one
        inch in height:

        (a) "IF YOU KEEP A LOADED FIREARM WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR
        CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE OBTAINS IT AND
        USES IT, RESULTING IN INJURY OR DEATH, OR CARRIES IT TO A PUBLIC
        PLACE, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR OR A FELONY UNLESS YOU
        STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A
        LOCKING DEVICE, TO KEEP IT FROM TEMPORARILY FUNCTIONING."
        (b) "IF YOU KEEP A PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF
        BEING CONCEALED UPON THE PERSON, WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR
        CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE GAINS ACCESS
        TO THE FIREARM, AND CARRIES IT OFF-PREMISES, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A
        MISDEMEANOR, UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR
        LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE, TO KEEP IT FROM TEMPORARILY
        FUNCTIONING."
        (c) "IF YOU KEEP ANY FIREARM WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR
        CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE GAINS ACCESS
        TO THE FIREARM, AND CARRIES IT OFF-PREMISES TO A SCHOOL OR
        SCHOOL-SPONSORED EVENT, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR, INCLUDING
        A FINE OF UP TO FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($5,000), UNLESS YOU STORED
        THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A
        LOCKING DEVICE."
        (d) "IF YOU NEGLIGENTLY STORE OR LEAVE A LOADED FIREARM WITHIN ANY
        PREMISES UNDER YOUR CUSTODY OR CONTROL, WHERE A PERSON UNDER 18
        YEARS OF AGE IS LIKELY TO ACCESS IT, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A
        MISDEMEANOR, INCLUDING A FINE OF UP TO ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($1,000),
        UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR LOCKED THE
        FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE."

        (e) "DISCHARGING FIREARMS IN POORLY VENTILATED AREAS, CLEANING
        FIREARMS, OR HANDLING AMMUNITION MAY RESULT IN EXPOSURE TO LEAD, A
        SUBSTANCE KNOWN TO CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS, REPRODUCTIVE HARM, AND OTHER
        SERIOUS PHYSICAL INJURY. HAVE ADEQUATE VENTILATION AT ALL TIMES. WASH
        HANDS THOROUGHLY AFTER EXPOSURE."
        (f) "FEDERAL REGULATIONS PROVIDE THAT IF YOU DO NOT TAKE PHYSICAL
        POSSESSION OF THE FIREARM THAT YOU ARE ACQUIRING OWNERSHIP OF WITHIN
        30 DAYS AFTER YOU COMPLETE THE INITIAL BACKGROUND CHECK PAPERWORK,
        THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS A SECOND
        TIME IN ORDER TO TAKE PHYSICAL POSSESSION OF THAT FIREARM."
        (g) "NO PERSON SHALL MAKE AN APPLICATION TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE
        PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON
        THE PERSON WITHIN ANY 30-DAY PERIOD AND NO DELIVERY SHALL BE MADE TO
        ANY PERSON WHO HAS MADE AN APPLICATION TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE
        PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON
        THE PERSON WITHIN ANY 30-DAY PERIOD."
        OLD SIGNS:

        26835. A licensee shall post conspicuously within the licensed
        premises the following warnings in block letters not less than one
        inch in height:

        (a) "IF YOU KEEP A LOADED FIREARM WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR
        CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE OBTAINS IT AND
        USES IT, RESULTING IN INJURY OR DEATH, OR CARRIES IT TO A PUBLIC
        PLACE, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR OR A FELONY UNLESS YOU
        STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A
        LOCKING DEVICE, TO KEEP IT FROM TEMPORARILY FUNCTIONING."
        (b) "IF YOU KEEP A PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF
        BEING CONCEALED UPON THE PERSON, WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR
        CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE GAINS ACCESS
        TO THE FIREARM, AND CARRIES IT OFF-PREMISES, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A
        MISDEMEANOR, UNLESS YOU STORED THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR
        LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A LOCKING DEVICE, TO KEEP IT FROM TEMPORARILY
        FUNCTIONING."
        (c) "IF YOU KEEP ANY FIREARM WITHIN ANY PREMISES UNDER YOUR
        CUSTODY OR CONTROL, AND A PERSON UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE GAINS ACCESS
        TO THE FIREARM, AND CARRIES IT OFF-PREMISES TO A SCHOOL OR
        SCHOOL-SPONSORED EVENT, YOU MAY BE GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR, INCLUDING
        A FINE OF UP TO FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($5,000), UNLESS YOU STORED
        THE FIREARM IN A LOCKED CONTAINER, OR LOCKED THE FIREARM WITH A
        LOCKING DEVICE."
        (d) "DISCHARGING FIREARMS IN POORLY VENTILATED AREAS, CLEANING
        FIREARMS, OR HANDLING AMMUNITION MAY RESULT IN EXPOSURE TO LEAD, A
        SUBSTANCE KNOWN TO CAUSE BIRTH DEFECTS, REPRODUCTIVE HARM, AND OTHER
        SERIOUS PHYSICAL INJURY. HAVE ADEQUATE VENTILATION AT ALL TIMES. WASH
        HANDS THOROUGHLY AFTER EXPOSURE."
        (e) "FEDERAL REGULATIONS PROVIDE THAT IF YOU DO NOT TAKE PHYSICAL
        POSSESSION OF THE FIREARM THAT YOU ARE ACQUIRING OWNERSHIP OF WITHIN
        30 DAYS AFTER YOU COMPLETE THE INITIAL BACKGROUND CHECK PAPERWORK,
        THEN YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS A SECOND
        TIME IN ORDER TO TAKE PHYSICAL POSSESSION OF THAT FIREARM."
        (f) "NO PERSON SHALL MAKE AN APPLICATION TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE
        PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON
        THE PERSON WITHIN ANY 30-DAY PERIOD AND NO DELIVERY SHALL BE MADE TO
        ANY PERSON WHO HAS MADE AN APPLICATION TO PURCHASE MORE THAN ONE
        PISTOL, REVOLVER, OR OTHER FIREARM CAPABLE OF BEING CONCEALED UPON
        THE PERSON WITHIN ANY 30-DAY PERIOD."
        Last edited by kemasa; 01-19-2014, 8:54 AM.
        Kemasa.
        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

        Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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        • #19
          kemasa
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 10706

          Originally posted by halifax
          These are two different signs in the RK Enterprises kit
          What I saw before was three signs, but there is really only one sign added. The previous law went to "f", the three signs went to "i", but the actual law goes to "g".

          I was told that RK Enterprises was informed of the mistake in December. Yes, the DOJ does read and take action based on things posted here.
          Last edited by kemasa; 01-19-2014, 9:40 AM.
          Kemasa.
          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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          • #20
            halifax
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4440

            OK, I think I got it, thanks
            Jim


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            • #21
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              I have a PDF of all of the required signs for either tabloid or legal paper. Staples said they could print it on tabloid paper for $0.20/page and there are about 23 pages.
              Kemasa.
              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

              Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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              • #22
                lugnutwrench
                Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 287

                Originally posted by kemasa
                I have a PDF of all of the required signs for either tabloid or legal paper. Staples said they could print it on tabloid paper for $0.20/page and there are about 23 pages.
                Attached is one that will print out on 16 US Letter pages (portrait).

                FYI, I used Arial Narrow at 72 pt (which should translated to 1 in. when printed) and messed with the page margins, line height, letter spacing, and hyphenation until I got to something fairly condensed.

                [UPDATE: Attachment deleted. The letters were less than 1" tall. 72 pt. translates to line height, not letter height. ]
                Last edited by lugnutwrench; 01-20-2014, 4:48 PM.
                That's just my $1.05.

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                • #23
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  Originally posted by lugnutwrench
                  Attached is one that will print out on 16 US Letter pages (portrait).

                  FYI, I used Arial Narrow at 72 pt (which should translated to 1 in. when printed) and messed with the page margins, line height, letter spacing, and hyphenation until I got to something fairly condensed.
                  When I tried printing out the first page, it is under 1". There are 9 lines on 8.5x11 paper, so it does not seem that it could be the correct size.

                  Attached is my PDF for tabloid paper (11x17).
                  Last edited by kemasa; 01-18-2018, 4:26 PM.
                  Kemasa.
                  False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                  Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                  Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                  • #24
                    lugnutwrench
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 287

                    Originally posted by kemasa
                    When I tried printing out the first page, it is under 1". There are 9 lines on 8.5x11 paper, so it does not seem that it could be the correct size.

                    Attached is my PDF for tabloid paper (11x17).
                    Oops! You're absolutely right! Use kemasa's, not mine!
                    That's just my $1.05.

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