Question to FFL re: S&W Model 1911

[Sunny Shooter Gal]

My husband would like to buy SKU 170343, which is the Performance Center version of the Smith & Wesson Model SW1911. 45ACP. 8+1. 5" barrel. There are 5 listed S&W 1911, but not this SKU.

Can this gun be legally imported FFL to FFL from out of state?

[DEPUTYBILL]

If the buyer is exempt from the roster(LEO), or by single shot exemption.
Also is you can find one in Ca. already and buy thur a PPT, or if a dealer has one on consignment for sale. Failing that, you might just have him go with one on the roster.

[Sunny Shooter Gal]

Since similar guns to listed guns are allowed to be imported, how similar does it have to be? This is a S&W 1911, and there are 5 listed S&W 1911. Is that good enough even though small aspects are different?

Neither of us are LEO (or I would not be asking)
This gun, as stated is 8+1, not single shot.

For myself, I am trying to find an Anschutz Exemplar, and found one owned by someone who owns the gun in California, but it is illegal to import because it has a 5 round magazine. Are we legally allowed to buy a gun from a California seller that is illegal to import? Then do we own a legal gun?

I am trying to not be in violation of gun laws.

[ptusa]

Since similar guns to listed guns are allowed to be imported, how similar does it have to be? This is a S&W 1911, and there are 5 listed S&W 1911. Is that good enough even though small aspects are different?

Neither of us are LEO (or I would not be asking)
This gun, as stated is 8+1, not single shot.

For myself, I am trying to find an Anschutz Exemplar, and found one owned by someone who owns the gun in California, but it is illegal to import because it has a 5 round magazine. Are we legally allowed to buy a gun from a California seller that is illegal to import? Then do we own a legal gun?

I am trying to not be in violation of gun laws.

SSE is a process that is easy to do on 1911s...read the SSE sticky thread on the California Handguns section of this forum.

[Sunny Shooter Gal]

SSE: Does SSE stand for single shot exemption? The 1911 has an 8 round magazine. How does it qualify as a single shot exemption?

Or does SSE stand for something else?

[ke6guj]

SSE: Does SSE stand for single shot exemption? The 1911 has an 8 round magazine. How does it qualify as a single shot exemption?

Or does SSE stand for something else?

yes it does stand for single-shot exemption.

it qualifies for SSE when it is configured into a dimensionally-compliant single-shot configuration. just because it "normally" has an 8-round magazine doesn't mean that it must always have an 8-round magazine. afix a zero-round SLED into the mag-well and you now have a firearm that can only shoot one round at a time and must be manually reloaded each time, which would be considered a single-shot handgun.

[ptusa]

Read the SSE thread in the CA handguns area, as previously suggested...in the end you have the 1911 you want in the normal configuration, the SSE is just during the purchase and waiting period.

It is all explained there already.

[kemasa]

Since similar guns to listed guns are allowed to be imported, how similar does it have to be? This is a S&W 1911, and there are 5 listed S&W 1911. Is that good enough even though small aspects are different?

Firearms can be imported, but can not be transferred unless the person is exempt or the transfer is exempt.

It has to be an exact match PERIOD. If the grips are changed OR the color is changed OR the firearm is engraved OR etc., it is no longer on the list.

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For myself, I am trying to find an Anschutz Exemplar, and found one owned by someone who owns the gun in California, but it is illegal to import because it has a 5 round magazine. Are we legally allowed to buy a gun from a California seller that is illegal to import? Then do we own a legal gun?

If the person is in CA and you do the transfer as a PPT, then you can get it transferred. Otherwise the firearm has to be exempt from the list or be on the list. It is NOT illegal to import, it is just illegal to transfer it to you, which means that you can have it. The firearm is not illegal, the only limitation is on the transfer of it (excluding the so-called a-salt weapons).

It has nothing to do with the magazine. I doubt that a bolt action would be considered to be a single action revolver. It might be considered an Olympic pistol, but the definition would have to be checked.