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  • boyzuker
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 225

    Long expired PPT

    If a PPT is forgotten about by the buyer how long dose a FFL need to sit on the gun? What happens to the gun after X amount of time?
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    kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    After 30 days, the firearm should be returned to the seller or turned over to the police or the DROS re-submitted.
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    • #3
      boyzuker
      Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 225

      Originally posted by kemasa
      After 30 days, the firearm should be returned to the seller or turned over to the police or the DROS re-submitted.

      In what DOJ information are you seeing that the firearm go back to the police or the seller? In the case of a handgun the firearm would be legally registered to the buyer unless the DROS was cancelled and DOJ approved the return to the seller.

      I'm looking for DOJ regulations not opinion.

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      • #4
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        Go look at the CA PC regarding PPTs. The FFL is required to cancel the DROS if it is not picked up, which has to be done in writing if it is over 30 days.

        Here is a nice reference to the laws:



        If it is over 30 days, the FFL can not deliver the firearm to the purchaser by law.
        Kemasa.
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        • #5
          DEPUTYBILL
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 873

          I would think you would try to contact the buyer, and ask him if he still wanted the firearm, and inform him it would have to be re- DROS'ed. and the fee paid again. If he could not be contacted, or for some reason did not want to re-due the paper work, I would think the FFL would try contacting the original seller to see if he were interested in the gun. I think the paper work would be cancelled by the FFL. I am not sure if the seller would have a legal right to the firearm since it was sold and he got payment for it.

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          • #6
            kemasa
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 10706

            Originally posted by DEPUTYBILL
            I am not sure if the seller would have a legal right to the firearm since it was sold and he got payment for it.
            The law requires the FFL do certain things in regards to a PPT. Legal right or not, the FFL has to return the firearm to the seller or the police if it can not be transferred to the buyer (which can not occur due to exceeding 30 days). If the buyer was not denied, it is unknown if the seller was checked or not, which is also an issue.
            Kemasa.
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