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  • itsbs2
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 110

    4473 for military

    Hi, I am active duty air force, and recently got stationed in california. I just purchased a firearm and need to do an out of state FFL transfer. Currently, i do not have a CA drivers licence, utility bill, or registration. Will my military ID and PCS orders (placing me in california) be enough for the DROS and 4473?
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    rromeo
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2009
    • 6981

    Yes. Pcs orders are valid as proof of residence. If the FFL says no, find a different one.
    Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

    - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
    (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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    • #3
      itsbs2
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 110

      Originally posted by rromeo
      Yes. Pcs orders are valid as proof of residence. If the FFL says no, find a different one.
      Guess I will be finding a new FFL

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      • #4
        rromeo
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2009
        • 6981

        By the way, that's not necessarily California specific. I know a few Virginia FFLs that don't understand the law.
        Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

        - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
        (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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        • #5
          acespawnshop
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jun 2012
          • 2852

          Maybe FFL's should actually READ whats on the back pages of the 4473! Sucks your rights were infringed by some brain dead FFL. Thanks for serving!
          Interstate Transfers $100 (DROS included with the price)
          Email acesjewelryandloan@hotmail.com if you need us to do a transfer!
          Or call 626-968-5900

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          • #6
            kemasa
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 10706

            There are both CA and Federal issues. This is not a common occurrence as most people have a document which shows their address.

            As it turns out, it is enough, both for CA and the Feds.

            Don't expect a FFL to know all of the possible issues and sometimes FFL have to research issues. There are some FFLs who will just make assumptions and go with that, which might not be the correct thing to do. Yes, looking at the instructions for the 4473 is a good thing, since it says to write both the duty station and the residence address, but that does not address the CA issue, which is harder to get an answer for.
            Kemasa.
            False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

            Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

            Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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            • #7
              itsbs2
              Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 110

              I was not worried about the DROS because mil ID is listed as one of the acceptable forms of ID in the purchaser information section. Additionally, the oag website says "a military ID accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable." I, however, have resolved this with the FFl I am working with and will continue to do business with him. Willingness to work with me and do his homework goes a long way in my book and my FFL did both and has been great in the process so far despite the short hiccup!

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