Export of 80%

[LWS]

Hello everyone, I'm curious about the legality of exporting 80% lower "paper weights" to Canada. I was contacted by a buyer and was not prepared to close a sale because I just didn't know if I could, it had never come up before. I've been going through some of the federal firearms laws and it's some pretty thick reading. Does anyone here have a definitive answer? I'm thinking it may not be worth it either way. Just curious now.

[ASD1]

It's just a "chunk of metal" ship it

[mej16489]

Just because a chunk of metal is 'not a firearm' by determination of the BATFE, doesn't mean that the items isn't covered by ITAR, nor that it is legally exportable.

My gut says its illegal, but my gut also says that its probably a good idea to know for certain...

[WDE91]

There are plenty of buyers here in the US
the potential for this to blow up is majorly there

I would not do it

[LWS]

Yeah, there is definitely no way I'm doing it without knowing for sure. Looking through these regulations is quite a task. I have a feeling if no one is doing it on a regular basis already it's a no go. I did find receivers under a particular regulation but skirting the loopholes on this particular one may not be a good idea.

[WDE91]

Yeah, there is definitely no way I'm doing it without knowing for sure. Looking through these regulations is quite a task. I have a feeling if no one is doing it on a regular basis already it's a no go. I did find receivers under a particular regulation but skirting the loopholes on this particular one may not be a good idea.

What is at stake here?
$50-200 profit I would assume...

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Partially completed receivers are considered "munitions" under ITAR if they "have reached a stage in manufacture where they are clearly identifiable" as a firearm receiver. This wording sounds more strict than ATF's definition. I'd guess that an 80% receiver is already "clearly identifiable" as a firearm receiver, but don't know for sure what the State Department's opinion is.

[LWS]

Partially completed receivers are considered "munitions" under ITAR if they "have reached a stage in manufacture where they are clearly identifiable" as a firearm receiver. This wording sounds more strict than ATF's definition. I'd guess that an 80% receiver is already "clearly identifiable" as a firearm receiver, but don't know for sure what the State Department's opinion is.

That seems to clear things up right there. Don't think I'll need to look any further. I thank you all for your help and information.

[Garand1911]

This items are going to fall under ITAR. What does Canada say for import ? You would need to get a license on both ends. Contact Dept of Commerce, it may not be as big a deal as it might seem.