SOLD LONG GUN TO FFL, LICENSE ISSUE

[KIMBER8400]

Sold a long gun to FFL.
He sent his FFL to me via e-mail.
There are a few issues that caught my eyes.
1. top right - it states expiration date 2/1/2013
2. under the FFL # the ez check produced LOA 1/17/13 issue date and 7/16/13 expiration date, but gave the same expiration date for FFL
3. Under type of license it says 01 dealer in firearms other than...
4. And the very odd one I think is this, left bottom where it says cut, "please note: not valid for the sale or other disposition of firearms.

Could somebody please tell me if I can send my long gun to this ffl with the above FFL info.

[DogLegArms]

Are you planning on sending it through a FFL dealer or yourself?

ezcheck should match what's on the FFL.

[KIMBER8400]

Since the buyer is FFL, I planing to send myself. However, his FFL shows expired.

[kemasa]

There is no requirement that the FFL give you a copy of their FFL and it is actually suggested that FFLs not give a copy to non-licensees, so the FFL is being "nice" to give you a copy.

The LOA is a letter saying that the BATF has not renewed the license yet, but has extended the license for 6 months. Such a FFL is not really valid without a copy of that letter, but since you don't actually need a copy (see above), it does not matter. The original expiration remains the same, but the FFL is still allowed to do business.

I suspect the "please note: not valid for the sale or other disposition of firearms" is on the bottom left, below the little card type thing, which is for unknown purposes, perhaps just for giving to non-licensees, but I have yet to see an explanation and just ignore it. That is just saying that little card is not valid for anything, but the top portion is.

Yes, based on the information you provided, the FFL is valid for shipping a firearm to the person.

[KIMBER8400]

I think you misunderstood my situation.
How is the FFL being nice? it is he who purchased a firearm from me, not the other way around.
Am I just to take his word for it and ship directly to anybody who says "I'm an FFL?"
IMHO verification of one's FFL is a must before a private party ships a firearm to FFL.
With this said, the LOA letter must be provided with the FFL to determine whether or not the license was extended.

[kemasa]

No, I did not. He is not required to give you a copy of his FFL, that is being nice. You do not need the FFL and so you do not need the LOA and the FFL is not required to give you either and as I said, the BATF says to not give a copy of your FFL to a non-licensee.

Unfortunately, yes, you can take his word, but the better way is to use the BATF ezcheck web page, which shows that he is a valid FFL, which is all you need.

So, in my first response I answered your question, explained your issues and you are still not satisfied, plus you want to claim that you should be provided with the LOA, but you actually have no basis for that. You have already confirmed the status of the FFL by what you posted, so what more do you want?

The FFL could require you to ship from a FFL as well.

BTW, you should change the subject to a question since there is actually no problem with the license.

[KIMBER8400]

Thanks for clarifying.
I think a better way here is to use FFL on my end to be on a safe side.
Subject changed.

[kemasa]

Using a FFL on your side will not make it any safer and instead will cost more money and involve more people, thereby making it less safe, but you are free to do what you want.

The BATF ezcheck confirms the license and mentions the LOA to show why the expiration date is what it is. There is no problem, no license issue.

[TRICKSTER]

I don't see a problem here. The letter of authorization is basically a temporary extension of the license issued by the ATF when they are running behind on issuing renewals. I have had to do this before and it is perfectly legit. All that you "need" is to check his license via the EZ check system. If that shows that the LOA is valid, then everything is legit as far as the ATF is concerned.
As far as using a FFL to ship, that is up to you, but is not required and just adds unnecessary cost to the transaction.

As far as the being nice part, yes the FFL was being nice by sending you a copy of everything. Many FFLs will not do this and the ATF has recommended that they do not do it. All that is required is his FFL # and info that you can then check via the EZ Check system. As long as EZ Check confirms that the license is valid and the name and address match, that is all the confirmation that is required.

By the way, don't take as fact advice by posters that start out with "Just a Guess" in the FFL Forum.