I went in to pick up my AR15 yesterday on the 10th day with my original receipt stating pickup date time weapon SN paid in full. The owner took my receipt, made a show of looking around then told me the gun had been resold and was no longer available. I said, "huhh?" I asked how that could be as I popped the cherry on this AR15 close of business 10 days earlier and I couldn't see how it was gone? He said sorry about that accidents happen. Someone logged it in the wrong spot. They have one book log as you go, no mystery spots or pages that i am aware of. I had to get back to work and we agreed to meet and discuss next week. I became a little disgruntled later when i checked online. in the last 10 days my "Missing" AR15 doubled $$ price on GB over what i paid the shop Out the door. Do I have any recourse? I just want my original AR or the same. The sale was logged in and fees were paid, full balance paid on rifle, background intiated day of sale no issues with DOJ. Thanks all and Merry Christmas
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I went in to pick up my AR15 yesterday on the 10th day with my original receipt stating pickup date time weapon SN paid in full. The owner took my receipt, made a show of looking around then told me the gun had been resold and was no longer available. I said, "huhh?" I asked how that could be as I popped the cherry on this AR15 close of business 10 days earlier and I couldn't see how it was gone? He said sorry about that accidents happen. Someone logged it in the wrong spot. They have one book log as you go, no mystery spots or pages that i am aware of. I had to get back to work and we agreed to meet and discuss next week. I became a little disgruntled later when i checked online. in the last 10 days my "Missing" AR15 doubled $$ price on GB over what i paid the shop Out the door. Do I have any recourse? I just want my original AR or the same. The sale was logged in and fees were paid, full balance paid on rifle, background intiated day of sale no issues with DOJ. Thanks all and Merry Christmas
Were i you, I'd contact the DOJ about a misappropriated (stolen) firearm, and file a police report. Also file in small claims.
The store owner is a doosh.
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Name the dealer.Last edited by tcrpe; 12-23-2012, 6:14 AM.Originally posted by SilverTauronConsidering the facts of how easily safes can be defeated, a park bench offers the same amount of protection.Originally posted by loose_electronPE card? LOL! Any green kid out of engineering school can get that with a few years of experience.Comment
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Sounds very shady to say the least. I would be extremely pissed off. Maybe it was a genuine mistake although given the timing I would say it would be quite a coincidence. I would go back and ask him to rectify this ASAP and get you what is owed. If they are any less than fully accommodating then blast their name on here loud and clear. Also call the DOJ as someone has already said.Comment
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If the gun was DROS'ed to you, it belongs to you. So long as DROS was processed - then the store is on the hook for retrieving the firearm that you own. If this is the case, nicely ask them to get you your firearm - else take the issue up with the DOJ or possibly the BATF as your firearm is STOLEN (even if it was the store that "stole" it in order to re-sell it for double the price). Faced with getting their tit caught in the ATF-wringer, I suspect they'll want to make it right instead of possibly losing their FFL, and thus their ability to operate as a gun store.Comment
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I was just caught up in the Valkyrie Arms (VA) drama. I DROS'd a 1911, and when I went to P/U, VA was basically shutdown. The one guy left to deal with the mess, had to retract, or cancel my DROS's that was already done, 10 day wait and all. THen shipped to another vendor, and started the whole thing again.
If the DOJ is still processing the DROS and it's in the 10 day wait for the other buyer, explain the situation and see what they can do.When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
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It would seem to me to be an honest mistake. The rifle was DROS'd twice with the two DROS's having same serial #. The dealer is going to have to cancel DROS on one, mostly likely you if rifle is another's possession already. My guess is that the way he does this is the same as cancelling DROS like gun wasn't picked up in 30 days, although his paperwork shows messed up dates.
The dealer is going to have to bend over backwards now to get you a replacement and make it right with about 500 rounds for free, IMHO.Last edited by artoaster; 12-23-2012, 6:39 AM.
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I'd contact ATF as paperwork is not matching guns that are supposed to be in the store. Bad news !!!Comment
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Gun resold during 10 day wait
Thanks for the support. I feel wronged after review of the events. I am fairly easy going, but things were said and done that didn't jive then and especially now. 1. Dealer owner stated I was the third person he had to tell this to on this model different guns. (I am aware they had three of these guns and I got the last one, was in the loop on this order though not a groupie). One mistake could happen, 3 seems a little excessive even for the worst gun shop, these guys had a good rep. 2. The enormous fluctuation in selling price on this gun from my date of purchase to current valuation. Haven't found one in CA. for sale as of now. 3. While waiting I observed a father and son attempting to high sell two M&P SW ARs or trade on some 1911s. Shop Owner low balled and declined the trading for any of his stock. He then told them when they backed off he could sell each gun for 2k no problem. He suggested this forum to sell to his credit. These were basic SW ARs, around $700 and some change 2 weeks ago. I thought I didn't hear that $2k each correctly. This tidbit went into the useless subconscious of course. Nothing clicked until I went on line a little later, then I felt like an idiot. 4. Owner said my gun was a name only, not really a good gun he offered two seriously lesser ARs as potential subs. Told him I wanted what I paid for and expected a real resolution, nothing less. I know what I want in the stable. He just stared off into space. 5. Very concerned about the shops real world survivability with black rifles off the shelf and no new stock coming soon according to them. I thinking maybe two weeks at best and that might be overly optimistic. 6. Not wanting to burn this shop by name, just want my gun. I will talk to them on Wednesday with the conflict resolutions suggested. Thank you allComment
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Gun resold during 10 day wait
Yes I am certain the Gun was still in the shop yesterday. I unwrapped this thing 10 days before. Cut the factory tape on box, removed chamber plug, original factory oil no smudges nothing. Certain I was First to touch it. Couldn't have sold it again until the next day, so that would be a pickup today or later. They are a little shop with one manual enter as you go log, DOJ was in there two weeks ago. Really suprised they are trying to pull this off. The whole thing was bad, felt canned. Also, the guy said, "mistakes happen." I did think to say not in this climate with everything going sideways. That doesn't wash. Again the catatonic stare. ThanksComment
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If he makes it right, it was likely just a mistake. Right would be another gun, same model and equipment, and something nice for the trouble. Inconvenient, yes, but stuff happens.
If he just refunds the money or otherwise jerks you around, complain to BBB, DOJ, and sue in small claims court.Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
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