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  • m1a1driver
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 1031

    C&R handgun PPT\COE 10 day wait exemption-HELP

    I have a C&R and a COE. I got the two so I could skip the 10 day wait on C&R handgun purchases. Its been full of headaches... hardly any FFL's i've been to know how to do the transfer.. I always call ahead of time and make sure, however today really upsetted me. I called this place TWICE to confirm they knew how to do the PPT, they said yes they do. So, i get there today and they just flat out tell me they dont know, and I may have to wait the 10 days. I was pretty mad, however they had me and the seller fill out the paperwork and told me they would call me toomorrow after they spoke with the doj. can an FFL here explain to me the exact process that has to be done to run the C&R+COE wait period exempt dros So I can print it out and use it as reference so something like this doesnt happen again? I drove 90 miles to the FFL...now I have to go back again. to pick it up whenever they figure it out.
  • #2
    kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    The first tab would be the transaction type, would would be the Private Party transfer, click on "Handgun". Then under the "DROS" tab, for the waiting period exemption you would select "Collector".

    If they don't know what "Collector" is, then they need to look it up.

    See also:

    Public Where do I find laws regarding the possession of firearms? I'm not sure whether I have a California record that would prevent me from owning/possessing a firearm. Is there a way to find out before I attempt to purchase one? What is the process for purchasing a firearm in California? How can I obtain a Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) license? Can I give a firearm to my adult child? Can he/she give it back to me later? Can I give a firearm to my spouse or registered domestic partner? Can he/she give it back to me later?


    18. Are there any exemptions to the waiting period?

    For most people - no. However certain exemptions do exist for the following:

    a. Firearms dealers and persons who have obtained special weapons permits issued by DOJ are exempt from the waiting period.

    b. Persons with curio and relic collector's licenses issued by the ATF and who have a valid Certificate of Eligibility issued by the DOJ are exempt from the waiting period only when purchasing curio and relic firearms.

    (PC sections 12078 (a)(r)(t))
    The CA PC has changed, but the web page has not.

    Also:

    Firearms Dealers Links to Topics below General FAQs DROS Entry System (DES) Internet Process AB 1872/2165/2699 Dealer FAQs General FAQs What are California's licensing requirements for firearms dealers? How much is the annual Centralized List fee and when must it be paid? What is a California Firearms Dealer (CFD) number? Do I need to send copies of my dealer's Federal Firearms License and local firearms license(s) to DOJ? How is DROS information submitted? How do I get copies of the blank DROS worksheet? How can I correct or cancel a DROS submission?


    21. Who is exempt from the waiting period?

    The most common exemptions to the 10-day wait include:
    ...
    c. Persons who have a curio and relic collector's license issued by the BATF and who have a valid COE issued by the DOJ are exempt from the waiting period only when purchasing curio and relic firearms. The dealer must retain a copy of the FFL collector's license and the COE.
    Last edited by kemasa; 11-29-2012, 11:11 AM.
    Kemasa.
    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

    Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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    • #3
      halifax
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4440

      I did it once and this is how I entered it in the DROS system:



      Also kept copies of 03FFL and COE.
      Jim


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      • #4
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        If you want the instructions see page 52:

        Kemasa.
        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

        Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

        Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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        • #5
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30241

          Here's the new penal code...

          Penal Code 26970
          (a) The waiting period described in Section 26815 does not apply to the sale, delivery, loan, or transfer of a firearm if all of the following conditions are satisfied:
          (1) The firearm is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, or its successor.
          (2) The sale, delivery, loan, or transfer is made by a dealer.
          (3) The sale, delivery, loan, or transfer is made to a person who is licensed as a collector pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.
          (4) The licensed collector has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710.
          (b) On the date that the sale, delivery, or transfer is made, the dealer delivering the firearm shall transmit to the Department of Justice an electronic or telephonic report of the transaction as is indicated in Section 28160 or 28165.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #6
            m1a1driver
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1031

            Yea i learned the hard way, even if thr ffl says they will do the transfer ALWAYS arrange it during th doj's business hours. I had them refuse to do a transfer without calling the doj since it was after doj's phone hours , even though i confirmed it twice on the phone with the shop the day before. Cost me half a tank of gas...

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