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  • halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    4473 and 03FFL

    Do 03FFLs need to fill out a 4473 when getting a C&R handgun from an 01FFL CA dealer? DROS yes but 4473?
    Jim


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    hk91666
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1945

    Originally posted by halifax
    Do 03FFLs need to fill out a 4473 when getting a C&R handgun from an 01FFL CA dealer? DROS yes but 4473?
    The 01 generally makes you fill it out.
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    • #3
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      I just asked that question a couple weeks ago http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=638907 .

      seems that it isn't legally required and some FFLs realize that you shouldn't fill out out since that just adds the chance of an error on the 4473. others use the 4473 number to sort their paperwork so they make everyone fill out a 4473
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        bruce381
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 2452

        no a copy of your 03 should be all you need least thats how i do it

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        • #5
          halifax
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4440

          Great. Thanks guys. No 4473 will be easier and no chance for a clerical error.
          Jim


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          • #6
            halifax
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4440

            Since there is no Federal requirement to go through a dealer, it's sales tax exempt, right? Licensee to licensee, that is.
            Jim


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            • #7
              kemasa
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jun 2005
              • 10706

              Originally posted by hk91666
              The 01 generally makes you fill it out.
              Just because some FFLs do it does not make it right. The C&R FFL holder is a licensee and the 4473 is for non-licensees, so no 4473 is required.

              Originally posted by halifax
              Since there is no Federal requirement to go through a dealer, it's sales tax exempt, right? Licensee to licensee, that is.
              Incorrect, depending on what you mean. If you are selling the firearm to the person, then there is sales tax, if the firearm is coming from a business, then there is sales tax. The C&R FFL holder is not a business, so they are not buying it for their business.

              If the C&R firearm is coming from a private party and is an occasional sale, then no sales tax is due. I think I posted the BOE letter to the CA sales tax FAQ about this.
              Kemasa.
              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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              • #8
                halifax
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4440

                Originally posted by kemasa
                ...If the C&R firearm is coming from a private party and is an occasional sale, then no sales tax is due. I think I posted the BOE letter to the CA sales tax FAQ about this.
                This one. Thanks
                Jim


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