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  • 9mill
    Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 304

    can ca. ffls recieve..

    in the mail a rostered handgun from a tenessee resident. Assuming a tenessee resident can mail a handgun??
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    mej16489
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 2714

    I'm Not an FFL:

    There is no law preventing it it, but many FFLs choose (as a matter of store policy) to only receive from other FFLs.

    Your best bet is to check with your proposed CA FFL/s

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    • #3
      CAL.BAR
      CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
      • Nov 2007
      • 5632

      Yeah - I've never met one yet that will receive from a non FFL. I don't know why, but that's the deal. Just have your friend in TN give/consign it to an FFL there and have the FFL send it.

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        tenpercentfirearms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2005
        • 13007

        Perfectly legal. I can receive firearms from anyone. I am an FFL. In this case it also does not matter if it is rostered or not. I just can't sell non-rostered handguns to peasants aka non-LEO.
        www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          A Tennessee resident that is not an FFL dealer, cannot mail a handgun. UPS or FedEx.
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          • #6
            9mill
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 304

            Originally posted by rromeo
            A Tennessee resident that is not an FFL dealer, cannot mail a handgun. UPS or FedEx.
            hm thats what I was wondering

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            • #7
              Mrs Rabbit
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 72

              Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
              Perfectly legal. I can receive firearms from anyone. I am an FFL. In this case it also does not matter if it is rostered or not. I just can't sell non-rostered handguns to peasants aka non-LEO.
              Don't they have to get the shipment authorization from the DOJ which I believe requires an FFL?

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                mej16489
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 2714

                Originally posted by Mrs Rabbit
                Don't they have to get the shipment authorization from the DOJ which I believe requires an FFL?
                That's only for shipments from other FFLs (out of state only?)

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                  CSACANNONEER
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44094

                  Originally posted by 9mill
                  hm thats what I was wondering
                  What's wrong with using UPS or FedX? Why are you wering about USPS?
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                  • #10
                    tenpercentfirearms
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 13007

                    Originally posted by mej16489
                    That's only for shipments from other FFLs (out of state only?)
                    That is only from any other type of 01/07 FFL in or out of state.
                    www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                    • #11
                      ronlglock
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2011
                      • 2670

                      Originally posted by rromeo
                      A Tennessee resident that is not an FFL dealer, cannot mail a handgun. UPS or FedEx.
                      I think some words were missing. An unlicensed person cannot mail a handgun. They can ship a handgun by USPS or Fedex.

                      Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
                      May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
                      A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

                      A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.
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                      • #12
                        glockwise2000
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2534

                        Originally posted by ronlglock
                        I think some words were missing. An unlicensed person cannot mail a handgun. They can ship a handgun by USPS UPS or Fedex.

                        Here is exactly what the ATF 'Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
                        May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier?
                        A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm. [18 U. S. C. 922( a)( 2)( A) and 922( e), 27 CFR 178.31]

                        A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.
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