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  • bubbapug1
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 7958

    How do you really feel about doing PPT's?

    How do you really feel about doing PPT's? Seems like a LOT of paperwork and liability for not a lot of money. First, there are the audits, than the impatient customers, the fact that a sales clerk is tied up doing paperwork and not selling, and in the event of a break-in, you have to make good on the guns in storage.

    Whats not to like???!!!!

    FFL's and gun store emoyees only please...this is not a public pole, voters are not disclosed.
    27
    I love doing them
    0%
    1
    I hate doing them
    0%
    2
    They are the reality of the gun world, so I tolerate them
    0%
    10
    They drive traffic into the store, so they are a good thing
    0%
    11
    They're just another speed bump on the road to Nirvana
    0%
    3

    The poll is expired.

    I love America for the rights and freedoms we used to have.
  • #2
    ripro75
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Apr 2009
    • 1676

    I don't mind them too much, it does suck when the drivers licenses don't read though.

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    • #3
      Josh3239
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 9197

      Employees count? I didn't hit the poll.

      Most people don't like doing it, I actually don't mind it because it keeps me busy and I am good at it. But it is extra paperwork and time, and it costs the FFL money. The state only sets a limit because shops would have to charge a much higher price for the transfer to be profitable. Additionally, when you work on the otherside of the counter one thing you learn is that there is a huge chance that there will be some sort of problem, seems to happen around a quarter of the time. In large shops, like the one I work at, I'd strongly urge you to bring/buy a hard case because not only does it provide the best protection from damage but it sure makes it a lot easier to store and find.

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      • #4
        tenpercentfirearms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2005
        • 13007

        I just do them. I treat them like any other transaction. I don't love them, I don't hate them, I just do them.
        www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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        • #5
          kemasa
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 10706

          My main complaint with PPTs is that the DROS system does not have an option to print out customer copies with the other person's information removed. I normally give the customer a copy of the DROS, but with PPTs I don't unless they ask since I have to print it, scan it, remove the information and then print out that copy. If the system allowed the FFL to print the buyer's copy, the seller's copy and the FFL's copy, then it would not be a bother at all.

          I also agree with Wes. I don't love them or hate them, it is just another transfer.
          Kemasa.
          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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          • #6
            yzErnie
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2007
            • 6309

            Originally posted by kemasa
            My main complaint with PPTs is that the DROS system does not have an option to print out customer copies with the other person's information removed. I normally give the customer a copy of the DROS, but with PPTs I don't unless they ask since I have to print it, scan it, remove the information and then print out that copy. If the system allowed the FFL to print the buyer's copy, the seller's copy and the FFL's copy, then it would not be a bother at all.
            That would be great but the state's IT people cannot even figure out how to get the handgun DROS to print on one page!! And, while they are fixing that they need to make the seller's signature block larger!!

            As far as PPTs go, it would be nice to not lose money doing them but it's all a part of owning the FFL so it doesn't make any difference to me.
            The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

            Originally posted by RazoE
            I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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            • #7
              theshoer
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 645

              The gun stores keep $5.00 for all their effort.The state gets the rest.

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              • #8
                kemasa
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 10706

                Originally posted by theshoer
                The gun stores keep $5.00 for all their effort.The state gets the rest.
                That is false, it is $10.
                Kemasa.
                False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  Originally posted by yzernie
                  That would be great but the state's IT people cannot even figure out how to get the handgun DROS to print on one page!! And, while they are fixing that they need to make the seller's signature block larger!!
                  Well, since no one submitted a bid on the new version, the next version (2014) will not be out-sourced (unless something changes).

                  Part of the problem is with Windoze. All my DROS fit on one page, it is a matter of the size that you select.
                  Kemasa.
                  False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                  Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                  Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                  • #10
                    mcisniper
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 532

                    They work for me. Brings customers in and they usually end up picking up ammo for their new "purchase."
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                    01 FFL, Chula Vista, CA
                    www.westcoastsurvivalarms.com
                    info@westcoastsurvivalarms.com

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                    • #11
                      PolishMike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 6034

                      They are ok as long as the buyer has everything in order. When someone comes in to do a PPT but got his license confiscated the day before for driving on a suspended license and gets mad at us I hate it.
                      Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                      • #12
                        tenpercentfirearms
                        Vendor/Retailer
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 13007

                        Originally posted by PolishMike
                        They are ok as long as the buyer has everything in order. When someone comes in to do a PPT but got his license confiscated the day before for driving on a suspended license and gets mad at us I hate it.
                        Is that a true story? You should tell them that the good news is it would have cost him $35 if they hadn't gotten it confiscated because the squirrel would have started his DROS and it would have been DMV rejected anyway.
                        www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                        • #13
                          PolishMike
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 6034

                          Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                          Is that a true story? You should tell them that the good news is it would have cost him $35 if they hadn't gotten it confiscated because the squirrel would have started his DROS and it would have been DMV rejected anyway.
                          Kind of true. Can't post details yet but it was a doozy lol
                          Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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                          • #14
                            Cypriss32
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 5986

                            Originally posted by PolishMike
                            Kind of true. Can't post details yet but it was a doozy lol
                            I think I know who this happined to. Did he have a 1911?
                            "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
                            -- Thomas Paine


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                            • #15
                              PolishMike
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 6034

                              Originally posted by Adam B.
                              I think I know who this happined to. Did he have a 1911?
                              no.
                              Artist formally known as CEO of Tracy Rifle and Pistol

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