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  • #16
    Dreaded Claymore
    Veteran Member
    • May 2010
    • 3231

    Originally posted by bohoki
    basically there are 2 kinds of people you are either hispanic latino or you arent
    Heh, reminds me of that line from My Big Fat Greek Wedding: "There are two kinds of people. Greeks, and everyone else that wish they was Greek." (sic)

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    • #17
      Vita Brevis
      Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 193

      Originally posted by bohoki
      basically there are 2 kinds of people you are either hispanic latino or you arent
      Are you a Mexican or a Mexican't?

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      • #18
        tenpercentfirearms
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Apr 2005
        • 13007

        I would be careful about answering however you want. It is illegal to lie on the form. So if you put down an ethnicity that you later do not claim, you would be committing perjury. So if you are going to check whatever box you want, be very careful not to go on record as stating you did it just to screw with the government or that you weren't being truthful on the form.

        However, it is correct that that data is pointless to a gun dealer. All I care is you have at least one check in each box 10.a and 10.b. Again, whatever you claim there is your business unless you make it my business by saying something stupid like "I am going to lie on this form" and then I can't sign it myself as I would be lying too.
        www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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        • #19
          curvejunkie
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 816

          Kind of curious what the reaction would be to that question if if was

          Black or Not black.

          I dont see what their point is asking that, and more than one customer has been quite aggravated by it.
          Robert
          Elite Arms and Supply
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          • #20
            jkgts1
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Apr 2007
            • 590

            Funny I just did the background check last week and I checked "Asian" like I always do. The guy comes back and says " not to offend you in anyway, but they want to know what kind of Asian?" Hahaha, dang they are getting specific. No biggie I told him and didn't think much about it. Some people are way too sensitive.

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            • #21
              freonr22
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2008
              • 12945

              Latino: For well-educated people who are native speakers of a Latin language (French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, Romanian, and others not so well-known),...
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              Originally posted by dantodd
              We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
              Originally posted by bwiese
              They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
              Originally posted by louisianagirl
              Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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              • #22
                halifax
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4440

                Originally posted by jkgts1
                Funny I just did the background check last week and I checked "Asian" like I always do. The guy comes back and says " not to offend you in anyway, but they want to know what kind of Asian?" Hahaha, dang they are getting specific. No biggie I told him and didn't think much about it. Some people are way too sensitive.
                Maybe because the dealer needs to enter one of these different choices on the DROS form:

                ASIAN INDIAN
                CAMBODIAN
                CHINESE
                FILIPINO
                HAWAIAN
                JAPANESE
                KOREAN
                LOATIAN
                OTHER ASIAN
                PACIFIC ISLANDER
                SAMOAN
                VIETNAMESE

                Unlike the Federal 4473 single "ASIAN" checkbox, CA has many other choices.
                Last edited by halifax; 08-06-2012, 6:33 AM.
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                • #23
                  tenpercentfirearms
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 13007

                  Originally posted by halifax
                  Maybe because the dealer needs to enter one of these different choices on the DROS form:

                  ASIAN INDIAN
                  CAMBODIAN
                  CHINESE
                  FILIPINO
                  HAWAIAN
                  JAPANESE
                  KOREAN
                  LOATIAN
                  OTHER ASIAN
                  PACIFIC ISLANDER
                  SAMOAN
                  VIETNAMESE

                  Unlike the Federal 4473 single "ASIAN" checkbox, CA has many other choices.
                  I love telling the story about when I was a rookie FFL and first discovered CA cares what kind of Asian you are. I was running DROS like a mad man from the San Jose Gun Show on all of the first large scale OLLs to come into the state. I didn't realize that the simple "Asian" on the 4473 was not so simple in DROS. So I was making all of these oriental Asians "Asian" in DROS and moving on. Well one day I noticed there were Cambodians on the list. I thought to myself that was odd. Wouldn't they just be Asian? Then I saw Koreans, Japanese, Laotian, and a whole host of Asians. So I went back to the top and looked at what I had been putting all this time for Mr. Chang, Mr. Nguyen, and Mr. Sohn? Asian Indian!

                  I was young so I was freaked out. I thought for sure all of those DROSes were going to get denied and people weren't going to get their lowers before the two weeks were up. Come to find out, the two weeks never came and no one gives a damn at the CA DOJ what race I put you as. And I learned that DROS cares what Asian you are, but not what anything else you are. Personally I find this racist. Why not list the different Latinos, the different Caucasians, and the different Africans? Why are Asians being singled out?

                  What I always say is I don't care what you put on your form. It should only say American and I will sell you a gun. Hell even if you aren't American, I will still sell you a gun, it just takes a little extra paperwork. There are a lot of xenophobes who hear me say this and get their panties in a twist, but I don't care. Every law abiding human being that steps through that gun shop's door is the same color to me.

                  Green.
                  www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                  • #24
                    Eddy's Shooting Sports
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1326

                    DOJ doesn't care much what is entered under personal information. I have had several occasions where I swiped a DL and forgot to update the buyers address. When calling DOJ to ask for a copy of the correction form to fax in, they simply told me, "don't worry about it. Just change it on the printed form. All we care about is the driver license number." Which makes sense, since that's their primary reference point for doing the background check.

                    I also asked them about changing a long gun DROS from one to two guns on the day of purchase. Same response. "just change it on the form".
                    Greg David
                    Eddy's Shooting Sports
                    (650)969-GUNS

                    400 Moffett Blvd., Suite F
                    Mountain View, CA 94043

                    www.eddysguns.com

                    Tue-Fri 12-7, Sat 11-5

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                    • #25
                      tenpercentfirearms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 13007

                      Originally posted by Eddy's Shooting Sports
                      I also asked them about changing a long gun DROS from one to two guns on the day of purchase. Same response. "just change it on the form".
                      Oh no! Let's not start that debate again!
                      www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                      • #26
                        Eddy's Shooting Sports
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1326

                        No debate. Just repeating what was said to me...

                        Apparently, even though the correction forms exists, they don't really like receiving them...
                        Greg David
                        Eddy's Shooting Sports
                        (650)969-GUNS

                        400 Moffett Blvd., Suite F
                        Mountain View, CA 94043

                        www.eddysguns.com

                        Tue-Fri 12-7, Sat 11-5

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