Bullet Button definition

[GetBulletsandBrass]

With all the hub-bub about SB 249 going on, I have to ask if anyone knows what the exact definition of what is considered a bullet button?

I am working on putting together a 1911 Carbine with a bullet button configuration I came up with to keep it legal. Most "bullet button" tools generally consist of a shroud or plate of some form and require a tool to release the magazine.

Does anybody know of any "bullet button" designs other than what we currently see on AR's and AK's?

[CSACANNONEER]

Yep, the exact definition of "bullet button" is simple. It is anything DPrince wants it to be. There is only ONE "Bullet Button" manufacturer. All others are mag locks but not "bullet buttons". If you need to know more about "Bullet Buttons" contact Assault Planet and ask.

Now, as far as other mag lock designs go, sure there are out of production designs and designs that never made it to production. Exactly what are you looking for?

[GetBulletsandBrass]

CSACANNONEER, thank you for the reference to Assault Planet, I will check them out.

I am aiming to ensure that the magazine lock configuration I came up with for the 1911 frame which will be part of a rifle build is going to meet the definition of being a mag lock/bullet button that will allow the end user to use the rifle with the existing pistol grip (1911) and a collapsible stock.

I want to also make sure as the manufacture that I am not manufacturing an assault weapon if my mag lock does not meet the requirements.

[Librarian]

The following definitions apply to terms used in the identification of assault weapons pursuant to Penal Code section 30515:

(a) “Detachable magazine” means any ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with neither disassembly of the firearm action nor use of a tool being required.

A bullet or ammunition cartridge is considered a tool. Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine.

Your goal is to have something that does not meet the definition of “Detachable magazine”.

[GetBulletsandBrass]

I've attached two pictures, one is a standard magazine release on a 1911 frame that will be built out into a rifle (rifle upper not shown)

The second picture is a modified magazine release which is about .004" below the frame and cannot be depressed with a finger (I've had kids and adults with varying finger sizes try) and does require a tool to release the magazine.

My question is, can anyone see any issues with this design or see a flaw in this set up?

Thoughts or feedback would be appreciated

[GetBulletsandBrass]

Bump

Looking for feed back on the pictures in post #5

[CSACANNONEER]

Find someone (a little kid or small female) and see if small fingers or finger nails can work it. Or. send me a sample installed on a new Wilson, Les Baer, etc. 1911 and I'll test it for you. Unfortunately, I won't be able to return it. But, you'll get my honest, non legal, opinion for your troubles.

[GetBulletsandBrass]

Have had a handful of ladies and young ones take a crack at it, including those with long fingernails and other unmentionable body parts. So far no one was able to release it with out a tool.

CSACANNONEER, I'll send you a sample on a 1911 frame for only a small non-refundable deposit of $2,100 and a copy of your FFL no problem

[CSACANNONEER]

Have had a handful of ladies and young ones take a crack at it, including those with long fingernails and other unmentionable body parts. So far no one was able to release it with out a tool.

CSACANNONEER, I'll send you a sample on a 1911 frame for only a small non-refundable deposit of $2,100 and a copy of your FFL no problem

I've considered getting an 06 and/or 07FFL for a while. It's just not in the cards right now. But. I've got more than a few friends who will be glad to do the transfer for me. I'll have to send you an IOU for the deposit though.

[artoaster]

Trying hard to imagine unmentionable body parts trying to work a magazine lock. LOL!