First Time DROS

[echoarms]

I'm a new FFL in SoCal getting ready to do my first handgun sale. Hoping someone can confirm for me the process.

1) Customer pays for gun in my inventory.
2) Fills out 4473 w/ picture ID needed
3) I enter data into DROS system
3a) For handgun, they must have secondary ID and HSC
4) Print DROS, right thumbprint on back
5) Wait 10 days
6) Pick up gun, making sure a lock is included

[lophed]

Step 5.5 : Safe handling demonstration

[eltee]

And safe handling demonstration form filled out.

[echoarms]

OK, I entered my first several DROS, 1 handgun, 4 shotguns. Next questions:
1) I keep track of the DROS notices and what do enter on the 4473 after 10 days? Approved, delayed? In other states, the delayed means 3 days.
2) They sign the form, pick up gun and I sign it out of my book with the form number?

[glock 357]

I think I fill out a safe information form too if the item doesn't already include a lock. Not sure if that's a requirement.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I think I fill out a safe information form too if the item doesn't already include a lock. Not sure if that's a requirement.

Handguns are no longer eligible for the safe affidavit per Federal requirements.

[echoarms]

Anything on my questions?

[tenpercentfirearms]

OK, I entered my first several DROS, 1 handgun, 4 shotguns. Next questions:
1) I keep track of the DROS notices and what do enter on the 4473 after 10 days? Approved, delayed? In other states, the delayed means 3 days.
2) They sign the form, pick up gun and I sign it out of my book with the form number?

1) Approved.

2) Yes

[eltee]

To keep the state happy, be sure to:

1. Log the CFLC number issued to the shipper
2. Document the state tax collected
3. Document what lock you provided or otherwise indicate how your customer met the lock requirements (I note it on the 4473)

Occasionally compare the "form number" (the # you assign in your bound book for a transaction) and what you put in the upper right box of the 4473. When things get busy, sometimes acquisitions and dispositions are not chronologically matched, so in your book the numbers will not always be in order whereas your 4473's should be in order.

[kemasa]

Handguns are no longer eligible for the safe affidavit per Federal requirements.

That is not quite accurate since it is be used to avoid have a receipt within 30 days for the lock (a lock is still needed though).

[tenpercentfirearms]

That is not quite accurate since it is be used to avoid have a receipt within 30 days for the lock (a lock is still needed though).

I am completely confused by this post. What are you advocating the Safe Affidavit can provide for you when purchasing a handgun? If a lock is still needed, then there is zero point in having the Safe Affidavit.

[Eddy's Shooting Sports]

My understanding is that the safe affidavit it sufficient for CA if the gun meets the Fed requirement another way, such as having a fed approved internal lock.

As for the OP, I think he needs to do some reading in all that literature that was provided when he got his FFL. These are very basic questions, many of which are answered in the instructions on the back of the 4473.

OP, are you a DOJ certified HSC instructor? If not, you may not deliver handguns to anyone but HSC exempt purchasers. To do the demo, you must be certified.

[kemasa]

I am completely confused by this post. What are you advocating the Safe Affidavit can provide for you when purchasing a handgun? If a lock is still needed, then there is zero point in having the Safe Affidavit.

For CA, a lock is required, as well as a receipt within 30 days. The CA safe affidavit removes the CA requirement for a receipt, but you still need the lock for the Feds.

[tenpercentfirearms]

For CA, a lock is required, as well as a receipt within 30 days. The CA safe affidavit removes the CA requirement for a receipt, but you still need the lock for the Feds.

Ok, that makes more sense. However, you actually do not need a receipt for a lock if you always provide the lock. Which actually is what the Feds require.

[kemasa]

The is a view expressed by the BATF, at least by certain people, but it has not been put in writing, as required. The law says that the lock has to be provided, but it is not clear as to who has to provide it.