FFL03/ C&R Question

[3S16]

QUESTION: A while back, I met a seller in a small shop in central ca. to do, what i thought was a C&R purchase on a S&W 12-2 (56 year old) dated to 1968. It was a 110 mile drive and I anticipated coming home with the gun after the paperwork was done. The shop owner insisted the gun wasn't listed on the ATF list of "Approved" C&R guns and didn't qualify as a C&R. I drew his attention to the section : To be recognized as a C&R item, firearms must fall within one of the following catagories:

1) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms.

Rather than argue with the owner, I went ahead with a PPT. and making another 110 mile trip back 10 days later.
So.Does the 50 year plus rule correct or the outdated list?

[wilit]

Dating it with a serial number is always hard when one of the parties doesn't know the regulation. It sucks for sure.

[SVT-40]

QUESTION: A while back, I met a seller in a small shop in central ca. to do, what i thought was a C&R purchase on a S&W 12-2 (56 year old) dated to 1968. It was a 110 mile drive and I anticipated coming home with the gun after the paperwork was done. The shop owner insisted the gun wasn't listed on the ATF list of "Approved" C&R guns and didn't qualify as a C&R. I drew his attention to the section : To be recognized as a C&R item, firearms must fall within one of the following catagories:

1) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms.

Rather than argue with the owner, I went ahead with a PPT. and making another 110 mile trip back 10 days later.
So.Does the 50 year plus rule correct or the outdated list?

Both are correct.

Any firearm which is 50+ years old is a C&R. The "list" is also correct, as it lists some firearms which aren't yet 50 + years old.

The shop owner is ignorant.

[3S16]

Thank you Sir, for the information. I feel a lot more confident now.
Happy Holidays

[Spaffo]

Name the store.

[GunDog]

Yes, please name the store. Central Valley is my Op Area and as a C&R FFL and COE holder I would like to know. There are other knowledgeable gun shops in CenCal that have proven very helpful with the interpretation and transfer of ATF recognized curio & relic firearms.