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  • F8ality
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 645

    large capacity magazine permit

    Im in the process of applying for my FFL but as you know, it is going to take awhile. Still waiting for my COE to come back. Anyways my question is, do you have to have your FFL to get your large capacity magazine permit? Or is there a way to get it before?
    Just some background I have:
    Seller's Permit
    EIN
    Home Occupation Permit
    Business License
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    Rudolf the Red
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 1038

    I believe the application will be included with your app. for your CFD#. That is the final step.
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    • #3
      t0kie
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 3419

      Originally posted by Rudolf the Red
      I believe the application will be included with your app. for your CFD#. That is the final step.
      So you are saying that we can submit them together, instead of waiting for the CFD first? If so, that's great to know. Thanks!

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      • #4
        F8ality
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 645

        and the CFD comes after the COE correct? So once I get my COE and apply for my FFL can I the also apply for my CFD and HCP before I physically get my FFL?

        HAHA jhchrist this is awesome. Before I posted this thread I knew where I was on the list of 3-letter documents/agencies required but now Im lost again. FML....

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        • #5
          GunSafari
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 383

          you need your FFL before you can get your CFD
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          • #6
            t0kie
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 3419

            Originally posted by Rudolf the Red
            I believe the application will be included with your app. for your CFD#. That is the final step.
            I just noticed that these two applications actually need to go to different PO Box, so is it OK to combine them & send all together to the PO Box for the CFD Application?

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            • #7
              Toby's Tactical
              Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 241

              Old thread but I have some relevant info. My CFD and large capacity magazine permit application had the same PO box and the instructions say applicants are encouraged to return the magazine permit request with the CFD request.

              I have my CFD and magazine permits in to the DOJ right now. I got a call from the DOJ office requesting clarification on what I meant on my good cause statement with "Conversion to California-compliant capacity". So I explained as best I could since I thought the statement was obvious. The reply was "I'm not sure that's legal" so I again tried to explain that I thought it was since others are doing it. There are a lot of people doing these conversions on Lancer mags and Magpul P-Mags. I prefer 20 round magazines (blocked at 10) since I can get a better grip on them and use Thorsden bullet button tools attached to the magazines. Can anyone cite code or lack thereof supporting the legality of these conversions?
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              • #8
                ArmsUnlimited
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1290

                Not such a good reason to have listed...

                Law enforcement sales or out of state sales are the acceptable answers.
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                • #9
                  Colonel Monk
                  Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 366

                  Originally posted by ArmsUnlimited
                  Not such a good reason to have listed...

                  Law enforcement sales or out of state sales are the acceptable answers.
                  Yup. You need to be careful giving your "good cause statements" on all of these extra permits - make sure that you're giving the "right" answer.

                  We said something like "to better serve our LE and Military customers" and a week later we had the permit.

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                  • #10
                    Toby's Tactical
                    Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 241

                    Received LCM Permit

                    Despite the DOJ calling me to ask about the good cause statement, I have received my Large Capacity Magazine Permit. In the good cause statement, I wrote: 1) Sale to law enforcement, 2) Conversion to California-compliant capacity. The DOJ called me to ask about #2. They issued the permit but only after calling to ask about it. So use cause #1 if it applies to you. Other people also recommend "sales out of state".
                    Toby's Tactical
                    07FFL/02SOT
                    Mountain View, CA

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                    • #11
                      tenpercentfirearms
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 13007

                      Originally posted by Toby's Tactical
                      Despite the DOJ calling me to ask about the good cause statement, I have received my Large Capacity Magazine Permit. In the good cause statement, I wrote: 1) Sale to law enforcement, 2) Conversion to California-compliant capacity. The DOJ called me to ask about #2. They issued the permit but only after calling to ask about it. So use cause #1 if it applies to you. Other people also recommend "sales out of state".
                      "For sales to law enforcement customers." is all you need. I put nothing else.
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                      • #12
                        Toby's Tactical
                        Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 241

                        NOW you tell me. Just kidding. Hope this info helps future applicants.
                        Toby's Tactical
                        07FFL/02SOT
                        Mountain View, CA

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