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  • justin4fun
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 601

    another interstate intrafamilar transfer question

    hello all and thanks for the help. Ive done some research on this topic but want to be sure I got it down.
    My step father in law passed away recently.he had a handgun that mother in law wants nothing to do with. She said I could have it. she now lives in co but plans to move back to ca in the next few months.
    My understanding is she can move to ca and declare the firearm with the proper form and register it in ca. She can then give it to her daughter/my wife and my wife will need to fill out a form stating a intrafamiliar transfer.then my wife never shoots so she can transfer it to me.I would need to fill out the same form and send in another 19 bucks. this seems like a lot of work and I am the only one who currently has a hsc .
    the other option would be for mother in law to register it in ca then do a ppt to me directly to me.
    My questions are is this correct and what implications does this have with hsc requirements? is my mother in law required to get a hsc to bring in the handgun to ca? Can the handgun go directly to me with only one form? does my wife need to get a hsc to receive the handgun?
    To me it seems less expensive and less hassle to just do a ppt but I dont think mother in law is willing to get a hsc. Any recommendations or clarification is greatly appreciated.
    On a second note my father lives in tx and has a few handguns that will go to me upon his passing hopefully not anytime soon. I read no ffl is required if it is a bequest. I dont think this is in his will but I have verbal been told I could have them. Is it required to be in his will to receive them without a ffl? I would believe if not step mom could send them to a ca ffl and transfer them to me? this ca law stuff is just to much to fully understand and the hoops that are required are infringement in my view. thanks for any responses in advance and for the wealth of knowledge that is on this site. you all are real american heros in my book.
  • #2
    Librarian
    Admin and Poltergeist
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 44678

    Originally posted by justin4fun
    hello all and thanks for the help. Ive done some research on this topic but want to be sure I got it down.

    My step father in law passed away recently.he had a handgun that mother in law wants nothing to do with. She said I could have it. she now lives in co but plans to move back to ca in the next few months.

    My understanding is she can move to ca and declare the firearm with the proper form and register it in ca. She can then give it to her daughter/my wife and my wife will need to fill out a form stating a intrafamiliar transfer. then my wife never shoots so she can transfer it to me.I would need to fill out the same form and send in another 19 bucks. this seems like a lot of work and I am the only one who currently has a hsc .

    the other option would be for mother in law to register it in ca then do a ppt to me directly to me.

    1) My questions are is this correct and what implications does this have with hsc requirements?

    2) is my mother in law required to get a hsc to bring in the handgun to ca?

    3) Can the handgun go directly to me with only one form? does my wife need to get a hsc to receive the handgun?

    To me it seems less expensive and less hassle to just do a ppt but I dont think mother in law is willing to get a hsc. Any recommendations or clarification is greatly appreciated.

    On a second note my father lives in tx and has a few handguns that will go to me upon his passing hopefully not anytime soon. I read no ffl is required if it is a bequest. I dont think this is in his will but I have verbal been told I could have them. (4) Is it required to be in his will to receive them without a ffl? I would believe if not step mom could send them to a ca ffl and transfer them to me? this ca law stuff is just to much to fully understand and the hoops that are required are infringement in my view. thanks for any responses in advance and for the wealth of knowledge that is on this site. you all are real american heros in my book.
    1) yes, you have it correct.

    2) No

    3) No - she is not your family for CA intrafamilial, so the PPT line you mention is the direct route. As you say, could intrafamilial transfer to her daughter (who DOES need the HSC) and then daughter/wife files same form and another $19 to transfer it to you.

    4) No, but then he'd have to pass intestate and have Texas probate laws distribute those handguns to you. Better if he has written instructions for his executor. Usually called a codicil.

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    • #3
      justin4fun
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 601

      Thanks librarian exactly what I needed to know.

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      • #4
        Mssr. Eleganté
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        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        I'll just add that the mother in law doesn't have to register the handgun before she PPT's it to you. Once she brings the handgun into California she has 60 days to either register it or PPT it. So if she does the PPT with you within 60 days of bringing in the handgun then she doesn't have to register it to herself first.

        That means she will need to get either a California DL or ID from DMV before 60 days elapse. She can always leave the handgun outside of California until she gets her DL/ID from DMV. The 60 days starts counting down when the handgun in brought into California, not when she moves to California. This will only work if she has somewhere to store the handgun outside of California though.
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