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  • Bobby Hated
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1616

    DOJ going after Single Shot exemptions and Rebuild Kits?

    just got back from PPT my railgun to a fellow calgunner, and the guys at the gun store we did PPT at were saying how the DOJ inspector just spent 3 days there, when they usually spend one day.

    they said the DOJ was making a special effort to go after Single Shot exemptions and Rebuild Kits. DOJ wanted all paperwork on single shot exemptions so they could follow up with gun owneres to make sure they had not been converted back.

    and they were also going after dealers for selling rebuild kits. DOJ apparently has decided by fiat that these are mags if all the parts for a mag are sold together.

    anyone know anything about this or can comment from an INFORMED perspective?

    thanks
    USPSA Master TY-71084

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    Bobula
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 9371

    Nothing in law against either. Attempted underground regulation.
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

    Fascist pig....

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    • #3
      tenpercentfirearms
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Apr 2005
      • 13007

      Originally posted by Bobby Hated
      just got back from PPT my railgun to a fellow calgunner, and the guys at the gun store we did PPT at were saying how the DOJ inspector just spent 3 days there, when they usually spend one day.

      they said the DOJ was making a special effort to go after Single Shot exemptions and Rebuild Kits. DOJ wanted all paperwork on single shot exemptions so they could follow up with gun owneres to make sure they had not been converted back.

      and they were also going after dealers for selling rebuild kits. DOJ apparently has decided by fiat that these are mags if all the parts for a mag are sold together.

      anyone know anything about this or can comment from an INFORMED perspective?

      thanks
      Who is the dealer so we can contact them.

      There is nothing the DOJ can do to you once you take possession of your handgun as long as you do not create an assault weapon.

      Furhter, there is plenty of documentation that rebuild kits are legal, so the DOJ would probably want to sent a reverssed opinion of their already written explination that rebuild kits are legal.

      At this time someone is spreading FUD. It is either the dealer or the DOJ and it needs to be addressed. Please let us know who it is so we can contact them.
      www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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      • #4
        AJAX22
        I need a LIFE!!
        • May 2006
        • 14980

        haha

        yeah.... love to get more info on who that dealer was

        Sounds like a bit of fud
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        • #5
          halifax
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4440

          If the DOJ "has decided by fiat that these are mags if all the parts for a mag are sold together", then the dealer broke the law and needs to be cited or arrested. Did that happen?
          Jim


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          • #6
            alfred1222
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2010
            • 7331

            Originally posted by halifax
            If the DOJ "has decided by fiat that these are mags if all the parts for a mag are sold together", then the dealer broke the law and needs to be cited or arrested. Did that happen?
            Why would the dealer be cited or arrested?! if someone puts all of the parts of a 30rnd mag into a bag, and slaps a price tag on it saying that the parts are meant to rebuild pre-ban mags, he is legally selling parts.
            Originally posted by Kestryll
            This guy is a complete and total idiot.
            /thread.

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            • #7
              rromeo
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2009
              • 6981

              Reread the post you quoted.
              Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

              - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
              (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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              • #8
                halifax
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4440

                Originally posted by alfred1222
                Why would the dealer be cited or arrested?! if someone puts all of the parts of a 30rnd mag into a bag, and slaps a price tag on it saying that the parts are meant to rebuild pre-ban mags, he is legally selling parts.

                Originally posted by halifax
                If the DOJ "has decided by fiat that these are mags if all the parts for a mag are sold together", then the dealer broke the law and needs to be cited or arrested. Did that happen?
                Well, if the DOJ decided they were magazines like the OP posted, then it follows that the dealer sold large capacity magazines to non-exempt people, doesn't it?
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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  Originally posted by halifax
                  Well, if the DOJ decided they were magazines like the OP posted, then it follows that the dealer sold large capacity magazines to non-exempt people, doesn't it?
                  Only if that is actually illegal (read the actual law).
                  Kemasa.
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                  • #10
                    EBR Works
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 10492

                    Originally posted by halifax
                    Well, if the DOJ decided they were magazines like the OP posted, then it follows that the dealer sold large capacity magazines to non-exempt people, doesn't it?
                    So, you are saying that selling a bag of parts that would constitute a complete mag is not legal? Please elaborate how you came to this conclusion.


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                    • #11
                      halifax
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4440



                      I am saying that if the DOJ is claiming that a bag of parts is indeed a complete magazine then they should have arrested the dealer or at least cited him. No?

                      They didn't which somewhat proves they are FOS.
                      Last edited by halifax; 02-09-2012, 4:54 PM.
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                      • #12
                        freonr22
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                        • Dec 2008
                        • 12945

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                        • #13
                          EBR Works
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 10492

                          Originally posted by halifax


                          I am saying that if the DOJ is claiming that a bag of parts is indeed a complete magazine then they should have arrested the dealer or at least cited him. No?

                          They didn't which somewhat proves they are FOS.
                          Got it. Sorry, I misunderstood.


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                          • #14
                            halifax
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 4440

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                            Last edited by halifax; 02-09-2012, 5:03 PM. Reason: missed the prior post
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                            • #15
                              winnre
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9214

                              Funny how a bag of magazine parts are just parts but a bag of machine gun parts is a machine gun. Pick a lane!
                              "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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