Gun Store questions

[CaliJatt]

I think having the transfer fee at 125 as indicated by 22alterego50 sounds reasonable for the area. And is backed up by what the FFL Dealers are saying. Thanks for point discussion guys.

[Cylarz]

If you think that we actually only spend 15 minutes dealing with your firearm, then I can see where the irritation comes from. However, in general I spend around an hour of my time dealing with each transfer that comes in. Consequently, I charge $60 for my transfers, be they handguns or long guns.

If you say so. I would question how often the situations you describe, really become an issue.

Because I do everything I can to make things easy for the FFL - I come to the store with full contact information written down (once I even asked for, and received, permission to step behind the counter to retrieve the seller's address because the employee apparently didn't know how to use Google). I don't attempt to have non-CA-legal firearms shipped in, and I can fill out the DROS form in my sleep because I've done it so many times. Oh, and I bring my vehicle registration into the store along with my driver license if I need a 2nd form of gov't-issued ID. I do sympathize if your buyers do not have their ducks in a row.

Meanwhile I'm prohibited from doing business with a huge chunk of the sellers on Gunbroker, because all three FFL's in my area will flat-out-refuse to do business with any seller who isn't himself an FFL (WTF does THAT matter?). And then make me wait **20 minutes** when I come to pick up my gun, because they can't hire enough staff to wait on the customers in a timely manner....or like the other guy pointed out, because they're busy having a chat behind the counter.

I'm sorry you're having to go through so much trouble just to run your business. Tell you what - you've still got the competition beat by $50, so next time I'll make the short drive to Napa and do business with you instead. I was just over in Sonoma County last week anyway to do some hiking and will visit the area again in the future.

[Dingoguns]

If you say so. I would question how often the situations you describe, really become an issue.

Because I do everything I can to make things easy for the FFL - I come to the store with full contact information written down (once I even asked for, and received, permission to step behind the counter to retrieve the seller's address because the employee apparently didn't know how to use Google). I don't attempt to have non-CA-legal firearms shipped in, and I can fill out the DROS form in my sleep because I've done it so many times. Oh, and I bring my vehicle registration into the store along with my driver license if I need a 2nd form of gov't-issued ID. I do sympathize if your buyers do not have their ducks in a row.

Meanwhile I'm prohibited from doing business with a huge chunk of the sellers on Gunbroker, because all three FFL's in my area will flat-out-refuse to do business with any seller who isn't himself an FFL (WTF does THAT matter?). And then make me wait **20 minutes** when I come to pick up my gun, because they can't hire enough staff to wait on the customers in a timely manner....or like the other guy pointed out, because they're busy having a chat behind the counter.

I'm sorry you're having to go through so much trouble just to run your business. Tell you what - you've still got the competition beat by $50, so next time I'll make the short drive to Napa and do business with you instead. I was just over in Sonoma County last week anyway to do some hiking and will visit the area again in the future.

With that being the case, sir, then I salute you. You truly cannot appreciate the immense relief I feel on the rare occasion that a customer actually does have every single one of his ducks in a row! Unfortunately, customers like you are truly the minority. I have to base my fees on the assumption that there WILL be some kind of issue like those mentioned, because otherwise I frankly wouldn't be in business for very long.

On the flip side of this, I feel your pain as well! The reason I started this business was because I was sick and tired of dealing with sellers of the type you describe; frankly, I knew I could do better.

I would absolutely love it if you stopped by! I can always use another customer, especially one who has his stuff together. Mind you, I don't mind helping folks figure things out with the laws and requirements as convoluted as they are, but having someone show up and have everything good to go is a veritable breath of fresh air.

I'm currently by appointment only, but my afternoon/evening availability is very open. I'm happy to accept shipments from private parties (provided they include a copy of their ID), and the only way you'll wait 20 minutes for me is if you show up 20 minutes early. Probably not even then.

[Ripon83]

I think it'd be fun to own and run a gun shop, and I'm certain it'd cost me a fortune I don't have. Why anyone thinks they bank huge dollars and are ripoffs I don't know. Mind you I've had bad experiences ( even recently ) there are plenty of good one's.

[Cylarz]

I'm currently by appointment only, but my afternoon/evening availability is very open. I'm happy to accept shipments from private parties (provided they include a copy of their ID), and the only way you'll wait 20 minutes for me is if you show up 20 minutes early. Probably not even then.

I've sent you a message through your store website. Please watch for it.