Selling gun not registered

[edgerly779]

^^^ Wrong must register.

[kemasa]

There is NO legal requirement to register guns when you move into CA, keyword is "voluntary" registration. (do not bring assault weapons into CA)

Please see CA PC 27560, which is not a suggestion.

While there are other options other than registering the firearms, so you statement is technically correct, the other options mean that the person no longer has the firearms.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=27560&lawCode=PEN

[ArmsUnlimited]

There is no legal consequence for not registering. There is no law requiring registration. As shown above by Kemasa

^^^ Wrong must register.

[Cokebottle]

There is NO legal requirement to register guns when you move into CA, keyword is "voluntary" registration. (do not bring assault weapons into CA)

There WAS no legal requirement to register long guns when you moved into CA. That has not been the case since 2014.

All guns brought into California by new residents must be registered.

All guns brought into California by a current resident who (somehow) legally acquired them out of state must be shipped in through an FFL, and the roster applies.

[kemasa]

There is no legal consequence for not registering. There is no law requiring registration. As shown above by Kemasa

Huh? Why do you think that a person could violate the CA PC and that there would be no legal consequences? Now, it is not likely that the person would get caught, but if they do ...

[rock3ralex]

I have sold a long gun last year that was purchased long before long gun registration happened and didn't have any issues. Should be the same for handguns.

[ArmsUnlimited]

Show me where it says and what it says happens to a person moving INTO California from another state with handguns that he/she fails to register

[Burbur]

Show me where it says and what it says happens to a person moving INTO California from another state with handguns that he/she fails to register

In plain English, CA PC 27560(a) offers 4 options that must occur within 60 days of bringing a personally owned firearm into California

(1) Register it
(2) PPT it
(3) Sell it to a dealer
(4) Sell (or give it) to the police

Kemasa kindly posted the text of the law above.

Furthermore:
First offense on failure to report is a misdemeanor. PC 27590(a)
(a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), (c), or (e), a violation of this article is a misdemeanor.

Second, third and subsequent convictions are feolnies. PC 27590(b)2
(b) If any of the following circumstances apply, a violation of this article is punishable by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for two, three, or four years.
(2) If the defendant has a prior conviction of violating the provisions, other than Section 27535, Section 27560 involving a firearm that is not a handgun, or Section 27565 involving a firearm that is not a handgun, of this article or former Section 12100 of this code, as Section 12100 read at any time from when it was enacted by Section 3 of Chapter 1386 of the Statutes of 1988 to when it was repealed by Section 18 of Chapter 23 of the Statutes of 1994, or Section 8101 of the Welfare and Institutions Code. -

But, there is no penalty for reporting past the 60 day time period. PC 27570

And it appears there is a three year statute of limitation, as is standard with misdemeanors that don't have special circumstances

[ArmsUnlimited]

Well there is your answer to the original question of the thread.

You provided 4 options, per PC, for "unregistered" guns brought into California, #2 being PPT it.

[Cokebottle]

Well there is your answer to the original question of the thread.

You provided 4 options, per PC, for "unregistered" guns brought into California, #2 being PPT it.

That is exactly what Kemasa said originally.
Yes, there are options to registering, but none involve keeping the gun.

PPTing it is not keeping it... Which is what the OP is asking, and yes, it is perfectly legal.

[ArmsUnlimited]

Notice in their URL how it says volreg (short for voluntary registration)

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/volreg.pdf

Registration for handguns that you've legally owned/acquired before 1991 is not required.

Registration for handguns for those who moved into CA with them before 1 Jan 1998 is not required.

Registration for handguns for those who moved into CA on/after Jan 1 1998 is required within 60 days of moving into the state.

NO proof of registration is required to be presented at time of PPT, any dealer (and we have heard of at least one in the SoCal area) who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about

[kemasa]

Voluntary is not quite accurate.

I am not sure of why any FFL would demand proof, especially when you consider that the firearm could have been acquired prior to any required registration, plus it is none of their business. I suspect it is more of a stunt to not do a PPT.