Out of state purchase who can install bullet button?

[HOOKANDBOOK]

Hello FFL's,

I was looking around for a good deal on a Saiga 12 and I found Classic Arms in North Carolina. Called them and they said the gun was Semi auto with no bullet button. I asked if they could install it and they said they don't have the correct license to install bullet buttons but to have my FFL do it on my end. So my question is who can do this, or who will do this? I live in the Sacramento area but it sounds like it needs to be a special kind of FFL?

Thanks for your help.

[kemikalembalance]

http://www.lanworldinc.com/

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/

[kemasa]

The firearm has to have the bullet button before it comes into CA or it needs to go to a so-called a-salt weapons dealer if it meets the qualifications of being a so-called a-salt weapon without the bullet button. A middleman dealer out of CA can install it.

[HOOKANDBOOK]

Well thanks for answering the question. I guess that's why the price gets marked up on the California guns, it doesn't leave you with many options.

[kemasa]

If the firearm can be made into a CA legal configuration, then it can be shipped in. For example, a complete AR lower (w/o upper) does not meet the qualifications of a so-called a-salt weapon unless it is banned by name, so it could be shipped into CA and transferred. The upper could be shipped directly to the customer since it is not a firearm. Once the customer has the lower, the bullet button could be installed, then attached the upper. If you attach the upper first, it would be a violation of the law.

[HOOKANDBOOK]

So what I was hoping to do was ship a semi-auto Saiga with no bullet button installed to a California FFL and have the California FFL install the bullet button then hand the gun over to me. What do you think of that? What if the gun was shipped with no magazine? Would that make it better?

[kemasa]

So what I was hoping to do was ship a semi-auto Saiga with no bullet button installed to a California FFL and have the California FFL install the bullet button then hand the gun over to me. What do you think of that? What if the gun was shipped with no magazine? Would that make it better?

As I said, unless the firearm is CA legal or you have it shipped to a CA a-salt weapons dealer, it is not legal for it to come into CA. There is really no way around this if you want to follow the law.

The lack of a magazine does not make a difference.

[HOOKANDBOOK]

If the firearm can be made into a CA legal configuration, then it can be shipped in.

This is what I was curious about, I was under the impression that there are types of FFL's that can import (Illegal) guns then modify and sell to the public in California but I guess from what you are saying that is not the case.

[kemasa]

There are FFLs who have a CA assault weapons permit and who could import the firearm and modify it, but most likely it would be cheaper to have a non-CA dealer install the bullet button. You would have to find such a dealer and see what they would charge. From what I understand, it is expensive to have the permit and they would charge accordingly.

[OniKoroshi]

You will have to pay for taxes no matter what. Outweigh that cost as it adds up close to Cali configured saigas. Check Sacramento black rifle. They had one in stock last week. Not sure about pricing though.

Atlanticfirearms has some listed. There is also a group buy that is trying to be set up. Check the shotgun forums

[HOOKANDBOOK]

Well this is what it comes down to....Not trying to dodge taxes

I have been following the group buy of Saiga 12's for some time now but there are a limited number of guns being offered so I decided to see if I could find my own deal and came across the Classic Arms website which advertises $499.00 semi-auto Saiga12's BUT with no bullet button. I am new to ordering guns from other states or off of the internet so what I was trying to do was get the classic arms guys to send the gun to a local FFL who slaps the BB on it and we call it done. But that would be too FN easy! When I first joined this CalGuns forum it blew me away why it was all about California guns but there was so much talk and advertising of gun shops from other states??? Well its all making sense to me now.