Shipping/Bringing In a Ruger LCP

[Curmudgeon]

My daughter wants to bring my Ruger LCP back to CA with her after Christmas in Georgia. I understand the LCP is not on the approved list because it doesn't have a safety.

Can she bring it into the state? If she doesn't want to pack it in her airline checked luggage, can I ship it to a CA FFL?

[kemasa]

I assume that she is a resident of CA and you are a resident of GA. This means that due to Federal law, you can not just transfer it to her. It needs to be shipped or brought by you to a CA FFL who is familiar with the intra-familial transfer process from out of state.

No, she can not bring it into the state unless she is a resident of GA and is moving to CA.

[Curmudgeon]

She is a CA resident and the LCP is family property. (There is no such thing as registering a firearm in GA.)

My main concern is owning a gun that is not on the list.

I understand she will be required to register it in CA, which I hate. I know you good folks are working hard to change a lot of CA laws. That one is among the worst, IMO.

[Ukiahgunnut]

I see several LCP's in dealers in my area. These are store front gun dealers. I was considering one a while back, but opted for the LC9.

UGN

[gatesbox]

She won't have a problem with it especially once it is registered. I had one and sold it here with no problems..... CA really isn't that bad if you do your research and follow the bogus rules.

I'm still a little fuzzy though on family gifts that are personally transported interstate. For parent to child gifts interstate do they really have to be FFL transferred if the recipient is able to physically receive the handgun? Or can they be personally received and then use the family reg form.....?

[ke6guj]

She is a CA resident and the LCP is family property. (There is no such thing as registering a firearm in GA.)

since you are a GA resident and she is a CA resident, it is a FEDERAL felony for you to directly transfer a firearm to a resident of a different state. There is no family property exemption to this law.

It is second federal felony for your daughter to acqure a firearm outside of her home state (CA) and bring it back to her home state. There is no family property exemption to this law.

We are not talking about CA laws in this scenario, only federal laws.

My main concern is owning a gun that is not on the list.

no law against owning off-roster handguns (provided that it is not otherwise a CA AW, SBR, or SBS).

[ke6guj]

Can she bring it into the state? If she doesn't want to pack it in her airline checked luggage, can I ship it to a CA FFL?

this is the only legal method for you to legally transfer a firearm to your daughter and get it into CA.

[Curmudgeon]

since you are a GA resident and she is a CA resident, it is a FEDERAL felony for you to directly transfer a firearm to a resident of a different state. There is no family property exemption to this law.

It is second federal felony for your daughter to acqure a firearm outside of her home state (CA) and bring it back to her home state. There is no family property exemption to this law.

We are not talking about CA laws in this scenario, only federal laws.



no law against owning off-roster handguns (provided that it is not otherwise a CA AW, SBR, or SBS).

I understand your point. She is bi-coastal (spends a lot of time in GA) but her legal residence is CA. I forget sometimes that she is not a GA resident. She has a GA Weapons Permit but it does her no good when she is here because she is a non-resident.

If LCPs are sold in CA, I may just give her the money and let her buy one there.

Thanks for all your responses. There are WAY too many state and federal gun laws...

[gatesbox]

Shipping it to an FFL will be the cheapest option....buying one here is possible but expensive... Make sure she likes it! There are other options that she can acquire here easily LC9, Kahr P380.... If you send the LCP to an FFL she will have a commodity that could be sold for more than face value if she needs to, or if she needs to buy a different handgun...

[brianm767]

If LCPs are sold in CA, I may just give her the money and let her buy one there.

LCP's are sold in Cali new to Law Enforcement officers, if you are not exempt, such as a police officer is, you have to find one used through what we call a PPT Private party transfer, they often go for up to $500.

Or through what we call a SSE single shot exemption, the gun is temporarly converted into a singel shot gun, the that makes it exempt from the roster, when you pick it up it is reconverted to it's standard configuration, it comes at a premium, I bought one last week and it was $402.80 OTD, and there are only a few dealers who do this service for us, one is in the bay area, one is in Fresno, that is all I know of who stock SSE pistols.

[kemasa]

My main concern is owning a gun that is not on the list.

That is not an issue. There are many firearms which are owned in CA and which are not on the list. Firearms not on the list can be transferred to a CA resident if it is a intra-familial transfer, but it has to go through a CA FFL.

If she spends a lot of time there, perhaps she could be considered a resident, especially if you have a room for rent.

I don't see the LCP on the certified list.

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

I'm still a little fuzzy though on family gifts that are personally transported interstate. For parent to child gifts interstate do they really have to be FFL transferred if the recipient is able to physically receive the handgun? Or can they be personally received and then use the family reg form.....?

Federal law prohibits the transfer of a firearm between residents of different states. There are no exemptions.

[Curmudgeon]

Wow, this all is so stupid. All these state and Federal laws and none of it slows down the criminals a bit. But, of course, I'm preaching to the choir.

Considering she can't get a CA carry permit (she lives in LA County,) she may as well get a shotgun for home protection and hope for the best when she is out in the world.

Thanks, guys...

[brianm767]

Wow, this all is so stupid. All these state and Federal laws and none of it slows down the criminals a bit. But, of course, I'm preaching to the choir.

Considering she can't get a CA carry permit (she lives in LA County,) she may as well get a shotgun for home protection and hope for the best when she is out in the world.

Thanks, guys...

Yes it is stupid , of course the only people these laws effect are us law abiding folks, but I'm sure Fienstein and Boxer think their saving thousands of people with these asinine laws.

By the way, I saw a 20G Remington 870 with a beautiful wood stock the other day, I believe it was a youth mode
Since it was short , I thought about buying it for my daughter.

[Ron-Solo]

You may ship it to an FFL in California and legally transfer it to her. Transfers from parent to child are exempt from the California roster.

Once she is back in CA, have her find an FFL that is knowledgeable in this type of transfer and it won't be that hard. Bright Spot Pawn in Riverside (a bit of a drive) is one that can accommodate this transaction. She will have to have a CA Handgun Safety Certificate. Aka: HSC which will cost $25.