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  • straightshot
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 85

    Home Address Confirmation

    So My drivers license has my old address on it currently because I am renting a room. Here is my dilemma... I want to purchase another long gun but I cannot provide a current utility bill to prove my residency at my current home. In addition, the registration on my car is not under my name.

    My question is, is it at the discretion of the FFL owner to verify my residency? The only reason I am asking is because the FFL owner knows me personally and knows my situation. I just want to know if he will be breaking any laws if he decided to let "minor detail" go. I'd rather not put him in an awkward situation by even asking to overlook it.
  • #2
    sundayduffer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 527

    my lips are sealed...this thread is not needed...if you catch my drift...*wink wink*

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    • #3
      tenpercentfirearms
      Vendor/Retailer
      • Apr 2005
      • 13007

      You simply need a government issued document. A utility bill that is not government issued would not work. It is a Federal requirement so if your dealer doesn't see the government issued document, but writes down in 20.b he did, he'd be committing a crime.
      www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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      • #4
        VL221
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 1449

        I am in the same situation.

        I do have a government bill (PGE) but it is not under the same address as my driver license address because I rent a apartment. However, the PGE bill does get delivered to the same address as my driver license. The PGE bill simply states on the front my name and full address of my driver license but on the back it clearly states that it is a bill for another address in California.

        Would that work?
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        • #5
          tenpercentfirearms
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Apr 2005
          • 13007

          Originally posted by VL221
          I am in the same situation.

          I do have a government bill (PGE) but it is not under the same address as my driver license address because I rent a apartment. However, the PGE bill does get delivered to the same address as my driver license. The PGE bill simply states on the front my name and full address of my driver license but on the back it clearly states that it is a bill for another address in California.

          Would that work?
          PGE is not a government issued document. They are a private corporation.
          www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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          • #6
            VL221
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 1449

            Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
            PGE is not a government issued document. They are a private corporation.
            My local gun shop said they will accept PG&E bill as proof of residency for my handgun.
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            • #7
              EBR Works
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Dec 2007
              • 10492

              Originally posted by VL221
              My local gun shop said they will accept PG&E bill as proof of residency for my handgun.
              ...but does your driver's license have your current address? If it does, this is acceptable. If it does not, a no go and would need to be a govt issued document.


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              • #8
                VL221
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 1449

                Originally posted by EBR Works
                ...but does your driver's license have your current address? If it does, this is acceptable. If it does not, a no go and would need to be a govt issued document.
                Yes, my driver license have my current address.

                My apartment's PG&E bill get mailed to my house address and the first page clearly shows my full name with my driver license's current address.

                Would it be acceptable if I just print out the online copy and just show them the first page with my full name and current address with the PG&E logo and etc? Because the first page doesn't state that it is a bill for my apartment address. The second page shows that it is a bill for my apartment in another California city.
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                • #9
                  mentalglitch
                  Junior Member
                  • May 2011
                  • 66

                  Try using your current DMV vehicle registration, that's a govt issued document.

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                  • #10
                    kemasa
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 10706

                    Originally posted by mentalglitch
                    Try using your current DMV vehicle registration, that's a govt issued document.
                    Not the best first post. If you were to read the first post, you would see:

                    the registration on my car is not under my name
                    Kemasa.
                    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                    Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                    • #11
                      VL221
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1449

                      What other options are there for people that don't have a lot of government items underneath their name and address?
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                      • #12
                        mentalglitch
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 66

                        Failed my first post! Sorry got too excited & missed that one.

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                        • #13
                          tenpercentfirearms
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 13007

                          Originally posted by VL221
                          Yes, my driver license have my current address.

                          My apartment's PG&E bill get mailed to my house address and the first page clearly shows my full name with my driver license's current address.

                          Would it be acceptable if I just print out the online copy and just show them the first page with my full name and current address with the PG&E logo and etc? Because the first page doesn't state that it is a bill for my apartment address. The second page shows that it is a bill for my apartment in another California city.
                          No. I always want to see where it says "service address". If your service address does not match the 4473, then it is not proving your address.
                          www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                          • #14
                            VL221
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1449

                            Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                            No. I always want to see where it says "service address". If your service address does not match the 4473, then it is not proving your address.
                            Then I am hoping I will slip through the crack

                            However, are there any other way I can show proof of residency besides having a DMV vehicle registration? How about W4 forms?
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                            • #15
                              straightshot
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 85

                              Kind of ironic that your 2 sentence reply was the most helpful? haha. thanks guys.
                              Originally posted by sundayduffer
                              my lips are sealed...this thread is not needed...if you catch my drift...*wink wink*

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