Friend's father passed away, guns go to me

[mike714]

Question for anyone that can help me. A friend's father passed away and has a few handguns (about 30, some brand new and all reg to the father), my friend does not want them and asked if i did, well of course. I know California only lets you buy ONE handgun in 30 days. Does this also go for PPT?

Thanks
Mike

[tenpercentfirearms]

Question for anyone that can help me. A friend's father passed away and has a few handguns (about 30, some brand new and all reg to the father), my friend does not want them and asked if i did, well of course. I know California only lets you buy ONE handgun in 30 days. Does this also go for PPT?

Thanks
Mike

PPT is exempt. However it is going to probably cost you $35 a handgun. They are probably worth it.

And your next question is can the friend PPT them, yes. The state doesn't really care who PPTs them as long as the new owner is not prohibited.

[BajaJames83]

That's one nice come up. And yes you can ppt them

[mike714]

Thanks for the info guys, I was worried I could only transfer one every month.

[beb1954]

Some ppl have all the luck...
Seriously, condolences to your friend, and a good for you, for you...
Be curious at to what unique may have been in that group..

[madassorz]

sorry for bumping old thread, recently had to go through some PPT myself.

First one should be $35[$25 for DROs, and $10 or what ever your FFL charges for transfer fee] and tack on what ever the FFL Fee's are on top per gun. since you don't need to have DROS for each gun, it's just "per purchase"

so if I got 2 PPT's done in 1 sitting, it would be $45.

you might want to give your FFL a call ahead of time before you bring in that many guns into the store to have them transferred into your name.

Condolences for your friend, and lucky you!

[kemasa]

That is correct ONLY for non-handguns. For Handguns, each one needs a DROS submitted. A second DROS is at a reduce cost though, $21 instead of $25.

I think that for firearms received from an estate, you can fill out the form from the CA DOJ web site, similar to the intrafamilial form.

[Quiet]

I think that for firearms received from an estate, you can fill out the form from the CA DOJ web site, similar to the intrafamilial form.

Firearms recieved from an estate of a non-immediate family member will need to be transfered through a FFL dealer.

In the OP's post, the firearms are from his friend's father. So, filling out the Operation of Law form would not be sufficent, since the transfers are not between immediate family members.


Penal Code 12078
(c)(1) Subdivision (d) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent transfer of a firearm that is not a handgun by gift, bequest, intestate succession, or other means by one individual to another if both individuals are members of the same immediate family.
(2) Subdivision (d) of Section 12072 shall not apply to the infrequent transfer of a handgun by gift, bequest, intestate succession, or other means by one individual to another if both individuals are members of the same immediate family and all of the following conditions are met:
(A) The person to whom the firearm is transferred shall, within 30 days of taking possession of the firearm, forward by prepaid mail or deliver in person to the Department of Justice, a report that includes information concerning the individual taking possession of the firearm, how title was obtained and from whom, and a description of the firearm in question. The report forms that individuals complete pursuant to this paragraph shall be provided to them by the Department of Justice.
(B) The person taking title to the firearm shall first obtain a basic firearms safety certificate. If taking possession on or after January 1, 2003, the person taking title to the firearm shall first obtain a handgun safety certificate.
(C) The person receiving the firearm is 18 years of age or older.
(3) As used in this subdivision, "immediate family member" means any one of the following relationships:
(A) Parent and child.
(B) Grandparent and grandchild.

[WmWhitfield]

Firearms recieved from an estate of a non-immediate family member will need to be transfered through a FFL dealer.

In the OP's post, the firearms are from his friend's father. So, filling out the Operation of Law form would not be sufficent, since the transfers are not between immediate family members.

I don't understand. Aren't there two transfers" Decedent to Son and son to friend which is a ppt. Is the first exempt from needing any kind of FFL transfer?

[Quiet]

I don't understand. Aren't there two transfers" Decedent to Son and son to friend which is a ppt. Is the first exempt from needing any kind of FFL transfer?

First transfer is exempt from the FFL dealer requirement.

Transfer from decedent to grandparent/parent/child/grandchild does not require a FFL dealer. However, within 30 days of the transfer, the grandparent/parent/child/grandchild must report any handguns he recieved to CA DOJ via the Operation of Law or Intra-Familial Handgun Transaction Report [PC 12078(c)(2)]. Long guns/others transfered this way do not have to be reported to CA DOJ (this will likely change after 01-01-2014).

Transfer from decedent to the executor of the decedent's estate does not require a FFL dealer, as long as the executor of the estate transfers out all of the firearms within 60 days of acquiring them. [PC 12071(b)(3)]

Any transfers after this requires the use of a FFL dealer.

[WmWhitfield]

First transfer is exempt from the FFL dealer requirement.

Transfer from decedent to grandparent/parent/child/grandchild does not require a FFL dealer. However, within 30 days of the transfer, the grandparent/parent/child/grandchild must report any handguns he recieved to CA DOJ via the Operation of Law or Intra-Familial Handgun Transaction Report [PC 12078(c)(2)]. Long guns/others transfered this way do not have to be reported to CA DOJ (this will likely change after 01-01-2014).

Transfer from decedent to the executor of the decedent's estate does not require a FFL dealer, as long as the executor of the estate transfers out all of the firearms within 60 days of acquiring them. [PC 12071(b)(3)]

Any transfers after this requires the use of a FFL dealer.

A child is inheriting from his father. That is the transfer by operation of law or intrafamilial transfer. Child is then giving them to a friend. Doesn't that require a PPT?

[Quiet]

A child is inheriting from his father. That is the transfer by operation of law or intrafamilial transfer. Child is then giving them to a friend. Doesn't that require a PPT?

Yes, the second transfer requires it to be done through a FFL dealer.

1st transfer: father to son = If firearm is a handgun, son sends in Operation of Law or Intra-Familial Handgun Transaction Report. If firearm is a long gun or other, nothing needs to be done (will change 01-01-2014).

2nd transfer: son to friend = PPT