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[BannedinBritain]

To me playing "tax man."

Where are these "customers" going? Who doesn't charge tax for certain transfers anymore?

Really the only ones I can guess that don't charge tax are the really small guys running things like a hobby out of their home.

[zinfull]

Was the purchase from a retailer or personnel sale through a ffl?

jerry

[ZirconJohn]

Really the only ones I can guess that don't charge tax are the really small guys running things like a hobby out of their home.

Not here... I play by the book.

I have lost customers as well... however, I am holding steadfast... and so
not willing to get beach-slapped by the BOE.

I rather poke my finger on the nose of a pee'ed off rattlesnake on a hot
summer day than mesk with the BOE...! They are NOT fun people...!

Anybody worth the hair on their arse knows that... and those who
don't... better them than ME...!

It's the old 'pay me now, or pay me later' game... and I dontwannaplay...!

[Milsurps]

To me playing "tax man."

Where are these "customers" going? Who doesn't charge tax for certain transfers anymore?

Really the only ones I can guess that don't charge tax are the really small guys running things like a hobby out of their home.

A table top FFL is my Internet purchases go to Guy !
Out of state Internet gun purchases are a no go for taxation in my opinion.
Sorry you guys have be turned into the Tax Man for the corrupt state of Kommifonia.

[ZirconJohn]

A table top FFL is my Internet purchases go to Guy !
Out of state Internet gun purchases are a no go for taxation in my opinion.
Sorry you guys have be turned into the Tax Man for the corrupt state of Kommifonia.

Well that's good, that's nice... that's really-really good...

[Milsurps]

Well that's good, that's nice... that's really-really good...

A question was asked. The question was answered by a "Customer".
Don't like the answer?.. Oh well.
Good day to you Sir.

[LG FIREARMS]

Was the purchase from a retailer or personnel sale through a ffl?

jerry

Retailer.

Reason for Thread - Had to vent. Thanks for listening guys.

[negolien]

So in state taxation is OK by you but out of state taxation is a no go? WTF dude are you serious? Ever wonder why the US can't compete with other countries? Same principle applies here bro.

Blood source as an example has to adhere to strict anal California health laws while out of state blood centers have less strict guidelines to follow but are still allowed to sell blood product here in California. So how is blood Source supposed to compete with out of state companies? Same applies to a dealer if he's told to charge taxes he must charge taxes /shrug blame the process not the messenger trying to feed his family not "stick it to you"......

[kemasa]

Sooner or later ANY FFL will most likely have an issue with this, so if they decide to not collect the sales tax, they might be in a world of hurt. A home based FFL actually has more to lose since most likely they are not protected by using a corporation, so they can lose EVERYTHING that they have.

It is interesting to see that some will allow others to be put at risk in order to save a little bit of money, or as some claim because they want to pay later. When those people end up out of business, then what will you do?

BTW, the requirement to collect sales tax has been there a long time.

[LG FIREARMS]

Really the only ones I can guess that don't charge tax are the really small guys running things like a hobby out of their home.

What's the difference between out of a home and a store front? I see it as the same.

Not arguing just extremely annoyed that some don't play by same rules....

[BannedinBritain]

Not here... I play by the book.

I get that John, I didn't mean to lump everyone together ...by and large the vast majority of them play by the rules. What I meant was the only ones I hear of any more that don't collect the tax are those types of FFL's...I imagine it's a very small percentage...and getting smaller as BOE makes it's rounds.

[ZirconJohn]

A question was asked. The question was answered by a "Customer".
Don't like the answer?.. Oh well.
Good day to you Sir.

Oh c'mon man... we all friends here, and as a business... well, one will do
what one wants to do... then one must answer to ones actions - good or
bad... yes?

Why sure...

Let's play some music... and lighten up a bit

[BannedinBritain]

What's the difference between out of a home and a store front? I see it as the same.

Not arguing just extremely annoyed that some don't play by same rules....

Depending on the number of taxable transactions not reported over a 3 year period (statute of limitations) it may or may not interest BOE to go after someone. If someone does it as a hobby, and does say 60-100 transactions in a year, half of which might be taxable...well the math may not support an investigation.

Not saying it's right...just my guess as to why they don't go after them. I could be totally wrong and they're just on a list and haven't been gotten to yet.

If it's done out of ignorance...I can understand.

I have a hard time dealing with the people who intentionally go to these guys to save on the tax...they're a real ethical bunch who would be the first to criticize someone else for not paying their taxes...but when it comes to their own wallet? Yeah, they're a real stand-up bunch.

EDIT: I believe they are going to end up taxing the internet anyway within the next couple years...then these people won't have the avenue to avoid the tax.

[bombadillo]

So what is the deal for you FFL's?? Is it that the BOE is coming down on you for not collecting tax on out of state transfer of firearms?

I get so frustrated with that because if I go out of state to oregon and buy a television, I come back and they don't check me for paying tax entering the state. I don't think that they should do it to anything else either for that matter other than the transfer fee and DROS. I know it is what it is for you poor saps but it just is one more reason I want to move out of this God forsaken state. It should be on the customer and if they get audited at the end of the year for not paying taxes, then its on them not you.