OK, Here we Go, another Transfer question..

[golfrj]

My nephew in Arizona has a Wish List pistol, said nephew visits to Ca. frequently, IF he brings said pistol to Ca. with him can we take it to an FFL and do an Familial (Family) PPT from him to me? His father left him the pistol and he does Not care about guns and I would Love to have it... What say you OH Learned Ones?? Thanks for your opinions...

[Librarian]

Nephew does not work for intrafamilial - it's parent/grandparent to/from child/grandchild.

If the handgun is on-Roster, he may bring it to a willing FFL and there do an interstate transfer; it will not be a PPT, because the DROS software does not accept out of state ID.

Because it is not a PPT, the Roster applies, and the FFL may charge whatever transfer fee s/he feels is appropriate for interstate transfer.

See also the Calguns Foundation Wiki articles on

Intrafamilial transfer - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...Family_Members

Interstate transfer - http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate

[golfrj]

Nephew does not work for intrafamilial - it's parent/grandparent to/from child/grandchild.

If the handgun is on-Roster, he may bring it to a willing FFL and there do an interstate transfer; it will not be a PPT, because the DROS software does not accept out of state ID.

Because it is not a PPT, the Roster applies, and the FFL may charge whatever transfer fee s/he feels is appropriate for interstate transfer.

I understand, (no nephews) But if he were my Grandson by marriage the transfer would be legal? The gun is off roster... Thanks again..

[Cokebottle]

I understand, (no nephews) But if he were my Grandson by marriage the transfer would be legal? The gun is off roster... Thanks again..

It would have to be gifted through a blood path.

If his mother is your MIL, then he can gift it to her, she can gift it to your wife, and your wife can gift it to you.

"Steps" and "in-laws" do not work for intrafamilial transfers.

[golfrj]

It would have to be gifted through a blood path.

If his mother is your MIL, then he can gift it to her, she can gift it to your wife, and your wife can gift it to you.

"Steps" and "in-laws" do not work for intrafamilial transfers.

Wow, would each of these gift paths have to be Ca registered? Or is a simple written statement OK? How in the world do people leave guns to heirs in Ca?
Sometimes I wonder......

[Librarian]

Wow, would each of these gift paths have to be Ca registered? Or is a simple written statement OK? How in the world do people leave guns to heirs in Ca?
Sometimes I wonder......

Inheritance is kettle of fish of a different color - both Fedlaw and CA law exempt inheritance transfer from using an FFL (and thus also from the Roster), no family relationship required. There's a wiki article on that, too.

Except for 'assault weapons', which may not be inherited by anyone in CA.

Nephew in AZ has to transfer the off-Roster handgun to someone in lineal relationship to you. If that happens out of state, CA need not know. Then, your parent/child could bring it (or with agreement of the FFL, send it) to a CA FFL and do the transfer.

But the entry into the hands of the CA resident has documented, and transfer steps within CA must be documented.

[Cokebottle]

Wow, would each of these gift paths have to be Ca registered? Or is a simple written statement OK? How in the world do people leave guns to heirs in Ca?
Sometimes I wonder......

If everyone involved is in California, then each step would require an OpLaw and $19.
For those in AZ, nothing is required for the transfer to be legal.

The moment the gun is legally transferred to someone inside of California, you could then meet that person at an FFL and execute a PPT for $35 and it would be roster exempt... that MIGHT be cheaper than the $38-$57 required for multiple OpLaw filings, so if his mom (or dad) is a California resident, then he could use the intrafamilial transfer to get it to them (normal FFL fees plus $25 DROS), then you could take direct possession through a $35 PPT provided you both can get to the same FFL.

Inheritance is a whole 'nother can of worms. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that inheritance is roster-exempt and does not require an FFL... but don't quote me on those. Kemasa or Ke6guj are both FFLs that are on top of the laws and would be able to tell you.
Librarian is also not clueless


Legally, once the gun is in your household, it becomes community property so you could skate leaving the registration in your wife's name.

[golfrj]

Thanks Guys for ALL Your Efforts, I have learned much this day.. Who says you can't teach an OLD dog new tricks?