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  • EBR Works
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Dec 2007
    • 10492

    Stripped lowers shipped to dealer must include lock?

    I just ordered some lowers from JD Machine in San Diego. The told me that DOJ has mandated that all stripped lowers that they ship to an FFL must be accompanied by a FSD. They said that this has something to do with local San Diego city ordinance. Anyone hear of this before?

    It's not a big deal, but they are charging $5 per lock and I already have a bunch that I got from the local Sheriff for free. Somewhat annoying...
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    BannedinBritain
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 302

    Funny...I'm in San Diego...and I work at a local shop...and I haven't heard diddly about any "city ordinance". JD Machine is going through some "issues" because of the Federal charges brought against the owner (word on the grapevine is they are undergoing change of ownership). At the Del Mar gun show they didn't even have any lowers for sale at their table...they only had uppers and accessories.

    There is this from the San Diego Municipal Code:

    But this has always had to do with over-the-counter sales...not dealer to dealer. Not to mention what the hell DOJ is doing enforcing local ordinances?
    Last edited by BannedinBritain; 06-09-2011, 2:40 PM.

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      Us3rName
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 660

      any more detail on the info your putting out BannedinBritain?

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        EBR Works
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Dec 2007
        • 10492

        I talked with them this morning and they said that they were now operating under a new FFL. They shipped the order I placed for lowers today. They're back....
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          BannedinBritain
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 302

          Originally posted by Us3rName
          any more detail on the info your putting out BannedinBritain?
          Detail in regards to which part?

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            BannedinBritain
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 302

            Originally posted by EBR Works
            I talked with them this morning and they said that they were now operating under a new FFL. They shipped the order I placed for lowers today. They're back....
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            I would imagine they are under a microscope...so they're taking everything they are "told" as gospel. I know when we ship firearms to another dealer, in CA or out of State, the only lock that goes with the gun is if it already has one with it.

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              tenpercentfirearms
              Vendor/Retailer
              • Apr 2005
              • 13007

              It is actually state law.

              12088.1. (a) All firearms sold or transferred in this state by a licensed firearms dealer, including private transfers through a dealer, and all firearms manufactured in this state, shall include or be accompanied by a firearms safety device that is listed on the Department of Justice's roster of approved firearms safety devices and that is identified as appropriate for that firearm by reference to either the manufacturer and model of the firearm, or to the physical characteristics of the firearm that match those listed on the roster for use with the device.
              www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                BannedinBritain
                Member
                • May 2011
                • 302

                Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                It is actually state law.
                Ah...manufactured...that's why. Pretty funny though that a buyer can forgo the lock requirement by filling out a safe affadavit...you would think JD selling stripped lowers to a dealer would imply they are going to be stored properly.

                If I were them, I'd offer to refund the money for the locks if you shipped them back...after all, it just says a lock should "accompany" the firearm...when they get to you, just ship them back for the refund.

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                  EBR Works
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 10492

                  Originally posted by BannedinBritain
                  Ah...manufactured...that's why. Pretty funny though that a buyer can forgo the lock requirement by filling out a safe affadavit...you would think JD selling stripped lowers to a dealer would imply they are going to be stored properly.

                  If I were them, I'd offer to refund the money for the locks if you shipped them back...after all, it just says a lock should "accompany" the firearm...when they get to you, just ship them back for the refund.
                  Actually they do. I received their shipment today and they had a letter explaining this and offering to allow FFLs to ship the locks back at their cost. A classy way to do it IMO.

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                    BannedinBritain
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 302

                    SWEET

                    JD's always been pretty good about stuff like that.

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