PPT documents required for non-US citizen

[et_aruba]

Good afternoon,
I am a LEGAL alien and have been since 1987. I am new to California, moved here from AZ. I have a number of rifles and handguns and am an AZ CCW holder.

I purchased my first rifle in California 3 weeks ago and the PPT/DROS transaction was excellent! Thank you, DAS in Solana Beach!
My second purchase/PPT was in OC last Saturday and the representative was really cool and knew his firearms. I received a call from another representative today and the FFL is insisting I MUST provide a gas or electrical bill from the last 4 months. According to form 4473, I can also provide a lease, bank statement, credit card statement, etc. When I pointed this out, the FFL representative got LOUD with me and stated "this is the way we do business". Can they do this? What are my options? I just checked my utility statements and they are in my fiancee's name.
I had NO problems with my first PPT/DROS. PM me for the name of the establishment. I feel dirty doing business with them, and based on this experience will not do business with them in the future. I hope I can get my rifle out!

[tenpercentfirearms]

You have to have the last three consecutive months of a utility bill or bank statements.

I would get firm back with the FFL and simply point to the 4473 where those documents are stated as acceptable. If he wants something else, then tell him to refund your money in full, including DROS as he did not specify this at the start of the transaction and his requirements are above and beyond of what is legally required. If this was his company policy, he should have outlined that before he started your DROS.

Good luck.

[et_aruba]

I am glad to hear I did not interpret the 4473 requirements incorrectly. Thank you for your response.

[superskyliner]

Not to thread jack, but I have a related question. Being an environmentally conscious "legal permanent resident" non citizen, I have all my utility accounts set up as paperless billing, if I log into my accounts and print my PDF format bill statements , this is still acceptable proof? They are identical to what you get in the mail except not double sided,

[thetaxman]

Not to thread jack, but I have a related question. Being an environmentally conscious "legal permanent resident" non citizen, I have all my utility accounts set up as paperless billing, if I log into my accounts and print my PDF format bill statements , this is still acceptable proof? They are identical to what you get in the mail except not double sided,

Yes.

[supernachos]

This happened to me just today at BassPro Shop in Rancho Cucamonga trying to buy a .22 . They asked me for 3 months of Utility bills when I did not have to do this for a another DROS performed in another Gun Shop located in the OC. They wouldn't budge so I simple asked to cancel the sale and refund my money as well as the DROS fees and they obliged without issue.
Very frustrating though....

[thetaxman]

This happened to me just today at BassPro Shop in Rancho Cucamonga trying to buy a .22 . They asked me for 3 months of Utility bills when I did not have to do this for a another DROS performed in another Gun Shop located in the OC. They wouldn't budge so I simple asked to cancel the sale and refund my money as well as the DROS fees and they obliged without issue.
Very frustrating though....

Why not give them the three months? You can do it when you pick up after the 10 days. You were there and clearly wanted the .22 at the price they were selling for........

[supernachos]

Why not give them the three months? You can do it when you pick up after the 10 days. You were there and clearly wanted the .22 at the price they were selling for........

I would have love to but the on-duty floor manager Bass Pro Shop didn't want to give me the option to Fax the docs when I get home or, as you said, present it when I picked it up after 10 days. I live 15 miles one way and with gas prices the way they are... I am not keen to do the round trip twice in one day!

it seem, and from prior experience that all legal docs need to be in order when they press the SUBMIT button. The salesman said that it was the Floor Manager prerogative but he said he was allowed to get another customer to fax the docs when he got home. (...oh well just unlucky I guess...) . Will try another day...

[thetaxman]

I would have love to but the on-duty floor manager Bass Pro Shop didn't want to give me the option to Fax the docs when I get home or, as you said, present it when I picked it up after 10 days. I live 15 miles one way and with gas prices the way they are... I am not keen to do the round trip twice in one day!

it seem, and from prior experience that all legal docs need to be in order when they press the SUBMIT button. The salesman said that it was the Floor Manager prerogative but he said he was allowed to get another customer to fax the docs when he got home. (...oh well just unlucky I guess...) . Will try another day...

Gotcha. The fact they lost a sale over docs that could have been brought in at pickup makes it their loss.