CA approved handguns question

[K_Labs]

Is the handgun I'm buying going to be an issue if it has been duracoated? It is coming from out of state so it isn't a FTF transfer.

[jtmkinsd]

Is the handgun I'm buying going to be an issue if it has been duracoated? It is coming from out of state so it isn't a FTF transfer.

What handgun? New or used?

[tenpercentfirearms]

Is the handgun I'm buying going to be an issue if it has been duracoated? It is coming from out of state so it isn't a FTF transfer.

I believe so. You will see where guns are listed as being two-tone, black, OD green, and so on and so forth. The guns are functionally the same, so the only difference is a different color. Those guns require approval.

So in my opinion, guns that are painted, chrome plated and the such are now different for roster purposes.

That doesn't mean you might not find a dealer who will do it and just call it the make and model of what it is.

Ask you receiving FFL.

Now if you get a gun and then send it out for Duracoating, that is totally legit.

[ripro75]

I believe so. You will see where guns are listed as being two-tone, black, OD green, and so on and so forth. The guns are functionally the same, so the only difference is a different color. Those guns require approval.

So in my opinion, guns that are painted, chrome plated and the such are now different for roster purposes.

That doesn't mean you might not find a dealer who will do it and just call it the make and model of what it is.

Ask you receiving FFL.

Now if you get a gun and then send it out for Duracoating, that is totally legit.

True but, a lot of guns are also listed as steel or polymer, no color indicated.
Roster sucks.

[FNH5-7]

What if he has the original box and paperwork that states what the original color was on that serial number? Wouldn't that work?

[K_Labs]

I appreciate the quick replies.

It's used. No paperwork. I called sig customer service today and asked them if they could verify it through the serial # and they said no problem. So no big deal but it still fits a description on the approved list. It probably used to be the Blued one with the *** by it

Yea the thing is "two-tone" it doesn't specify what the colors are and every single one that is approved says stainless steel

P226 (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .357 SIG 12/31/2011
P226 (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 12/31/2011
***P226 (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 12/31/2011
P226 (Two-Tone) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .357 SIG 3/6/2012
P226 (Two-Tone) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 3/6/2012
P226 (Two-Tone) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 3/6/2012
P226 DAK / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .357 SIG 1/26/2012
P226 DAK / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 1/26/2012
P226 DAK / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 3/23/2012
P226 FBINA / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 3/19/2012
P226 Navy (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 4/12/2011
P226R (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .357 SIG 7/17/2011
P226R (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 7/17/2011
P226R (Blued) / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 7/17/2011
P226R (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.4" .357 SIG 3/11/2012
P226R (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 3/11/2012
P226R (Stainless) / Stainless Steel Pistol 4.4" 9mm 3/11/2012
P226R Blackwater / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 12/19/2011
P226R DAK / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .357 SIG 7/8/2011
P226R DAK / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 7/8/2011
P226R DAK / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" 9mm 7/8/2011
P226R Equinox / Stainless Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.4" .40 S&W 12/19/201

[jtmkinsd]

So it's a used gun that's on the list and was probably refinished...I don't think you should have a problem DROSing it.

[ripro75]

So it's a used gun that's on the list and was probably refinished...I don't think you should have a problem DROSing it.

I don't think there would be a problem either. Color it back to original color with a crayon

[tenpercentfirearms]

So it's a used gun that's on the list and was probably refinished...I don't think you should have a problem DROSing it.

You will have no problem DROSing it, that is for sure. The problem might lie with the DOJ coming in to do an audit, seeing a refinished handgun, saying that takes it off the list, and then writing you up for selling handguns off the list to non-exempt people.

That is the risk you take.

What color is the Duracoat? If it is the same color and just basically a refinish, no one will probably notice. If it is pink or camo, then they would be able to tell. Assuming the agent even comes in or even cares.

[jtmkinsd]

The way I read the OP's question, he bought a used firearm from a private individual (gunbroker) who at some point refinished his gun?

The "original" firearm is on the list. What's the problem?

[tenpercentfirearms]

The way I read the OP's question, he bought a used firearm from a private individual (gunbroker) who at some point refinished his gun?

The "original" firearm is on the list. What's the problem?

The problem is if it doesn't match the finish on the list of handguns approved for sale in California, then it isn't on the list. If it isn't on the list, then an FFL cannot DROS it to a non-exempt person.

If it is still black, then it is still the same gun. If it is camo, pink, or chrome plated, it isn't on the list.

That is how the law reads and that is how the list reads.

Now, would the DOJ know you DROSed a non-rostered handgun unless they came into your shop to see it had been painted or chrome plated? No. However, it is what it is.

[dls]

The Cali law is jacked on new guns for sure, I couldn't even add a mag well remove FCS or change to strong side only safety, Nothing! I have to send it back after I take possession. It's BS.
Buying used is different.

[jtmkinsd]

I see what you're saying...Too bad somebody in a robe hasn't seen fit to toss this crap out yet. Color makes a gun unsafe. Yeah...whatever.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I see what you're saying...Too bad somebody in a robe hasn't seen fit to toss this crap out yet. Color makes a gun unsafe. Yeah...whatever.

We are working on it.