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  • tyosh510
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 5

    HK93 OLL

    Looking for a FFL that would handle a transfer of a stripped hk93 receiver in the LA area.
  • #2
    RickD427
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jan 2007
    • 9266

    The HK 93 isn't an OLL

    If you're talking about a Heckler and Koch model 93, I think that you're going to have a problem.

    The HK 93 isn't an OLL. It's on the prohibited list by name.

    There was an embarrassing oversight on the original list (the Bill's author needed a better proofreader) that described the Heckler and Koch rifles, in order, and that listed the "H 93" in place of the "HK 93". That typo got fixed in the statute long ago. Whoever led you to believe that the HK 93 is an OLL may have been looking at an obsolete version of the law.
    Last edited by RickD427; 02-14-2011, 5:19 PM.
    If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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    • #3
      jtmkinsd
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 2352

      The term assault weapon means the following designated semiautomatic firearms
      as defined by Penal Code section 12276:

      (a) All of the following specified rifles:

      (1) All AK series including, but not limited to, the models identified as follows:
      (A) Made in China AK, AKM, AKS, AK47, AK47S, 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
      (B) Norinco 56, 56S, 84S, and 86S.
      (C) Poly Technologies AKS and AK47.
      (D) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
      (2) UZI and Galil.
      (3) Beretta AR-70.
      (4) CETME Sporter.
      (5) Colt AR-15 series.
      (6) Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR110C.
      (7) Fabrique Nationale FAL, LAR, FNC, 308 Match, and Sporter.
      (8) MAS 223.
      (9) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and HK-PSG-1.
      (10) The following MAC types:
      (A) RPB Industries Inc, sM10 and sM11.
      (B) SWD Incorporated M11.
      (11) SKS with detachable magazine.
      (12) SIG AMT, PE-57, SG 550, and SG 551.
      (13) Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48.
      (14) Sterling MK-6.
      (15) Steyer AUG.
      (16) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S.
      (17) Armalite AR-180.
      (18) Bushmaster Assault Rifle.
      (19) Calico M-900.
      (20) J&R ENG M-68.
      (21) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
      For future reference this and much more can be found here: CA Firearm Laws
      Originally posted by orangeglo
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      • #4
        GoingQuiet
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Oct 2010
        • 2729

        Originally posted by tyosh510
        Looking for a FFL that would handle a transfer of a stripped hk93 receiver in the LA area.
        No idea if this helps but if you want me to re manufacture it to OLL, I can do so. I've got a great gunsmith and a manufacturers license.
        GoingQuiet.com, 07/02 FFL
        Melbourne, FL
        321-917-0760
        PRIVATE MESSAGES SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE NOT CHECKED - instead, email sales@goingquiet.com

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        • #5
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          I know that federal law allows for one to remove a model number from a firearm and remark it with another model. Done often with HK models like the SP89 being remarked into an MP5, but still being a semi-auto Title 1 firearm. We just don't know if it would be CA kosher to do that and then import it into the state.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #6
            JeffM
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 4359

            Stripped receivers are not covered by the list.

            The list only covers certain rifles, pistols, and shotguns by make/model.

            A receiver is a title 1 firearm but not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun.

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            • #7
              tyosh510
              Junior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 5

              Thanks for all the info. I should clarify that it is a HK93 clone stripped receiver.

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                ha ha, 5 wasted posts because the OP didn't say "clone" is his OP

                now that we have that out of the way, perhaps someone will be able to recommend a good LA-area FFL. but as LA-area is pretty large, you might want to narrow down your location so that you can get a close recommendation.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  jtmkinsd
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2352

                  Originally posted by JeffM
                  Stripped receivers are not covered by the list.

                  The list only covers certain rifles, pistols, and shotguns by make/model.

                  A receiver is a title 1 firearm but not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun.
                  Really? So under your assumption I can DROS all the Colt AR-15 receivers I want?

                  FAIL
                  Originally posted by orangeglo
                  Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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                  • #10
                    ke6guj
                    Moderator
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 23725

                    Originally posted by jtmkinsd
                    Really? So under your assumption I can DROS all the Colt AR-15 receivers I want?

                    FAIL
                    that is actually a position offered up by some of The Right People that a stripped "listed" receiver is not a "designated semiautomatic firearm"

                    12276. As used in this chapter, "assault weapon" shall mean the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
                    (a) All of the following specified rifles:
                    (5) Colt AR-15 series.
                    In addition, it has been opined that a Bushmaster XM15 pistol would be legal, since the AW lists only mention XM15 rifles, not pistols.

                    It is not recommended, but it is a defendable position.
                    Jack



                    Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                    No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                    • #11
                      jtmkinsd
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 2352

                      Originally posted by ke6guj
                      that is actually a position offered up by some of The Right People that a stripped "listed" receiver is not a "designated semiautomatic firearm"
                      Hadn't heard of that one...would take big brass ones to test the theory.
                      Originally posted by orangeglo
                      Welcome to failtown, population = you.

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                      • #12
                        tyosh510
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5

                        San Gabriel Valley.

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