Transfer charged on Upper AND Lower

[RogueSniper]

My cousin just ordered a matching Upper and Lower OLL (both stripped) from a Vendor and paid an FFL to receive the transfter. The FFL charged him $50 ($25 each) to transfer the Upper and the Lower. Huh? This doesn't seem right. The Vendor sold him the Upper and Lower as a single unit. The only reason he didn't take the Upper because it's going to have the lettering paint filled.

Did the FFL make an error in charging $25 for charging the Upper and the Lower? Thanks.

[jtmkinsd]

My cousin just ordered a matching Upper and Lower OLL (both stripped) from a Vendor and paid an FFL to receive the transfter. The FFL charged him $50 ($25 each) to transfer the Upper and the Lower. Huh? This doesn't seem right. The Vendor sold him the Upper and Lower as a single unit. The only reason he didn't take the Upper because it's going to have the lettering paint filled.

Did the FFL make an error in charging $25 for charging the Upper and the Lower? Thanks.

What kind of upper and lower, some guns the lower is considered the firearm and has a serial number, some guns the upper receiver is the firearm and has a serial number. Sounds like a mistake may have been made, but without knowing what was transferred there is no way to tell.

[ke6guj]

the FFL can charge whatever he wants in transfer fees, provide that he charges no more than $25 in state DROS fees. If the dealer wants to charge extra to do a complete rifle vs. just a lower (rifle takes up more space in safe), he can.

[CKY]

50 dollars is cheap. If you would have drosed it at the place where u bought the lower it would have been 25, but you had it sent to another dealer so there is where the extra charge comes from. 25 extra charge for a ffl to ffl is cheap. It is usually a extra 50 to 75 dollar charge, so 75-100 for the transfer. Congratulations on the good find of a cheap ffl.

[RogueSniper]

He bought a JD Machine at a gunshow, a matching Upper and Lower AR receiver - stripped, no parts, no barrel, nothing, nekkid! So, the FFL charging him for both pieces may or may not be an error? I think my Cuz should have paid attention, too. If the FFL was going to charge him for the Upper, too, then he should have had JD send him the Upper (non-serialized) directly. I think the shipping w/ insurance would have been less than the extra $25.

[ke6guj]

did the dealer charge him 2 DROS fees, or 2 transfer fees? what was his out-the-door cost? $50, $75, $100?

[tenpercentfirearms]

It is totally up to the dealer. If the dealer wants to charge $25 each, he can. As has been stated there should only be one DROS of $25 as uppers do not require a background check. So if he was charged DROS on the upper, that is not correct and legal. However, if the FFL wants to charge a $25 or $50 fee to receive the upper, that is his right.

Personally, I always tell my customers to only have what is absolutely necessary shipped to me. The rest you can receive yourself. In this case, I would only charge $50 for the lower (plus $25 DROS) and wouldn't even pay attention to the upper.

[RogueSniper]

He charged him only one DROS and two Transfers.

[ke6guj]

He charged him only one DROS and two Transfers.

so, it was $75 total? Thats not bad. And if he would have done it for $50 if there was no upper, even better. There are many dealers that have one price for just a lower or pistol, and another price for a complete rifle/shotgun, due to its taking up more space in the shop. In the end, $75 isn't bad.

[RogueSniper]

Good to know. Next time I'm out gun shopping with him, I'll pay attention to those little details. Do FFLs post those itemized items anywhere or do I have to ask? I know when I bought my lowers, the FFL told me he would charge me one DROS, but each lower is charged $25 separately. Meh. I knew that, because I wasn't buying any uppers to confuse the issues.
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[ke6guj]

Good to know. Next time I'm out gun shopping with him, I'll pay attention to those little details. Do FFLs post those itemized items anywhere or do I have to ask? I know when I bought my lowers, the FFL told me he would charge me one DROS, but each lower is charged $25 separately. Meh. I knew that, because I wasn't buying any uppers to confuse the issues.
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some do post, others don't. good idea to ask questions first rather than get hit with a large transfer fee you weren't expecting.

[GoingQuiet]

I think it was a little unfair to charge him to hand him his own property, but its not my business.

I frequently get non regulated parts in with shipments all the time and I just set them aside for the customer.

[kemasa]

If an item is shipped to a FFL from a business, even if it is not a firearm, then sales tax should be collected by the FFL. Any additional items is more work for the FFL to deal with and it is not unreasonable to charge something, but that should be clear upfront. The FFL would also be responsible for the items if they are lost or damaged and the bottom line is that the FFL IS a business.

If you think that it is unfair to charge something to hand them their own property, then if a person pays for a firearm directly, do you charge for doing thing transfer since it could be considered their property?