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  • THE 0NE
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 590

    Question?

    My boss just told me he does not want to put any longgans on pistol dros anymore, He wants to two separate dros one pistol and one for the longgun. I always thought it was ok to add the longgun to the handgun dros, Am i wrong? He wont tell me why he is doing this and i think its going to piss some people off. What do yo guys say?
  • #2
    Recession
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1565

    It's going to piss people off.

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    • #3
      THE 0NE
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2007
      • 590

      That's what I keep telling him. He does not seem to mind lol

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      • #4
        doctor_vals
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Feb 2007
        • 1478

        Your boss wants more money, but eventually he will loose money.
        I don't like when people greedy...
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        • #5
          THE 0NE
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 590

          The state is the only one making money it's just the 25 dollar dros he is charging. I would always tell people hey why don't you add a recover or a shotgun to the pistol dros you will save 25 dollars lol

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          • #6
            tenpercentfirearms
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2005
            • 13007

            Kemasa and I have debated this one at length.



            Moral of the story is it is up to the dealer. If you simply explain to your customers the DOJ has advised you not to included long guns on a handgun DROS and the $25 to the state is not worth losing your license over, then any customers that leave probably weren't worth putting up with in the first place.

            I think it is totally fine, but we still run them on two separate DROSes.
            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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            • #7
              freonr22
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2008
              • 12945

              wes, if you think its fine, then why the two droses
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              • #8
                tenpercentfirearms
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2005
                • 13007

                Originally posted by freonr22
                wes, if you think its fine, then why the two droses
                My business partner doesn't believe the $25 savings to our customer is worth the potential liability. It really isn't.
                www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                • #9
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  If you look at the laws, each firearm transaction is required to be reported. Each handgun is a transaction and any number of non-handguns that are a single transfer, sale or loan are a transaction, but both have to be reported and due to this you can not add a non-handgun to a handgun DROS sine you would only be submitting one, not two, firearm transaction. Please note that a firearm transaction under CA law is different than a firearm transaction under Federal law.

                  It is not greedy when it is the law. The State, if anyone, is greedy.

                  Personally, I think that the law should be changed to allow for long guns to be sold with a handgun since the serial numbers are not submitted for non-handguns.
                  Kemasa.
                  False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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                  • #10
                    standsalone
                    Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 137

                    according to what I was told directly by a CA DOJ rep on a call , you can add as long as you call DOJ and inform them of the increase... now even if you can debate the legalities of that specific issue , your boss has no clue as to what he is doing... he has been giving bad info to customers since he opened. not just as it pertains to gun laws either , he will tell you exactly what he needs to make more money... not a new revelation either. all one has to do is look up the shop online to hear how loved he is around here...
                    he has never been a CGN supporter either... he never stops *****ing about us!
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                    • #11
                      kemasa
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 10706

                      I have never heard such a clam before, plus it sounds more like you are talking about adding additional long guns to a long gun DROS, not adding long guns to a hand gun DROS.

                      I have also been told otherwise.
                      Kemasa.
                      False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                      Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

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                      • #12
                        standsalone
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 137

                        I am specifically stating what i was told by a CA DOJ rep. I was told (not heard from somewhere else) you can add a long gun to a handgun DROS provided you called in and informed DOJ.
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                        • #13
                          kemasa
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 10706

                          And I said I have never heard that and have been specifically told otherwise by CA DOJ agents who have been known to give good answers.
                          Kemasa.
                          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                          • #14
                            tenpercentfirearms
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 13007

                            Originally posted by kemasa
                            Each handgun is a transaction and any number of non-handguns that are a single transfer, sale or loan are a transaction, but both have to be reported and due to this you can not add a non-handgun to a handgun DROS sine you would only be submitting one, not two, firearm transaction.
                            PC12077(d)(4) One firearm transaction shall be reported on each record of sale document. For purposes of this subdivision, a "transaction" means a single sale, loan, or transfer of any number of firearms that are not handguns.
                            Actually a handgun is not a "transaction".
                            www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                            • #15
                              kemasa
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 10706

                              Yeah Wes, keep to that concept and use that as an excuse to not submit a DROS for a handgun. You know that a handgun IS a firearm transaction.
                              Kemasa.
                              False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                              Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                              Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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