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  • Slotcar
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 471

    Two issues...PPT's

    I have two questions.

    1) Can a person start a PPT for a handgun while he has another "dealer purchased" handgun in the waiting period?

    ---I may have made a mistake by doing a PPT on a handgun within a week of purchasing a handgun from a dealer. I have not heard anything but I just realized that there might be an issue if this is not allowed.

    2) My brother wants to send me a couple of our grandfater's rifles (actually a rifle and a shotgun). Does this need to go through a FFL? Also, if so, do they need to be shipped from an FFL to an FFL.

    THANKS!
    "THIS is the space typically used to impress others with wit & insightfulness..."
  • #2
    Joe
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2006
    • 5730

    Originally posted by Slotcar
    I have two questions.

    1) Can a person start a PPT for a handgun while he has another "dealer purchased" handgun in the waiting period?

    ---I may have made a mistake by doing a PPT on a handgun within a week of purchasing a handgun from a dealer. I have not heard anything but I just realized that there might be an issue if this is not allowed.

    2) My brother wants to send me a couple of our grandfater's rifles (actually a rifle and a shotgun). Does this need to go through a FFL? Also, if so, do they need to be shipped from an FFL to an FFL.

    THANKS!

    1) PPT's are exempt from the 1 in 30 rule so you're ok

    2)How old are the rifle and shotgun? Does your brother live inside california?

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    • #3
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by Slotcar
      I have two questions.

      1) Can a person start a PPT for a handgun while he has another "dealer purchased" handgun in the waiting period?

      ---I may have made a mistake by doing a PPT on a handgun within a week of purchasing a handgun from a dealer. I have not heard anything but I just realized that there might be an issue if this is not allowed.
      yes, you can. PPTs are not included inthe 1-in-30day rule for handguns (unless you do the DROS in the city of LA).

      2) My brother wants to send me a couple of our grandfater's rifles (actually a rifle and a shotgun). Does this need to go through a FFL? Also, if so, do they need to be shipped from an FFL to an FFL.

      THANKS!
      it depends. did your grandfather die and will them to you with your brother being the executor of the will? If you grandfather still alve? Is he a CA-resident?
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #4
        Slotcar
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 471

        Grandfather passed. No will. Brother is out of state.
        "THIS is the space typically used to impress others with wit & insightfulness..."

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        • #5
          Librarian
          Admin and Poltergeist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 44651

          So that looks like the long guns went from Grandfather to your brother.

          If true, what you propose is an interstate transfer of those guns from your brother to you.

          Now we come back to "how old are the guns?"

          CA says, if they're 50+ years old, you don't need an FFL. If you both were living here in CA and the guns were old enough, brother could hand them to you, no paper needed. But your brother does not live in CA.

          Feds say that you can buy or otherwise acquire long guns out of state - at an FFL - so long as the transaction follows the laws of both states (buyer and seller - you and your brother).

          Because of the CA 50+ Law and Fedlaw together, if 50+, you could go to your brother's state and transfer them at an FFL near your brother; no idea what that might cost.

          If NOT 50+, no CA exemption, so both CA and Feds require they come to a CA FFL; brother can send them directly to CA FFL if the FFL agrees.

          See http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...rms_Interstate
          ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

          Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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          • #6
            ATS76
            Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 358

            You also need to consider company polices of FedEx, USPS, UPS etc. Here is policy of UPS: Long guns can be sent via UPS ground service. Except returns from repairing, recipient must be federally licensed in CA. By the book, if you do not have a FFL, UPS/FedEx/USPS will not deliver a gun to you.

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            • #7
              Mssr. Eleganté
              Blue Blaze Irregular
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 10401

              Originally posted by ATS76
              You also need to consider company polices of FedEx, USPS, UPS etc. Here is policy of UPS: Long guns can be sent via UPS ground service. Except returns from repairing, recipient must be federally licensed in CA. By the book, if you do not have a FFL, UPS/FedEx/USPS will not deliver a gun to you.
              This is true of FedEx and FedEx Ground. But UPS will deliver firearms between any two parties as long as all Federal, State and local laws are followed. That's what their published shipping tariff says anyway. USPS is the same as long as you are not shipping handguns.
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