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  • semperfidelis354
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 437

    no sir its not what you think!

    Let's say hypothetically that someone wants to purchase a mak 90 from his father, later they find out mak 90 is illegal so no dice

    With me so far?

    Now let's say upon further investigation the mak 90 is actually an oll, but has been registered and a norinco mak 90 on paper,

    What would these 2 do? Can the purchase be made? Or will it need to be chopped to build up again to lose its name?
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    jtmkinsd
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2352

    Originally posted by semperfidelis354
    Let's say hypothetically that someone wants to purchase a mak 90 from his father, later they find out mak 90 is illegal so no dice

    With me so far?

    Now let's say upon further investigation the mak 90 is actually an oll, but has been registered and a norinco mak 90 on paper,

    What would these 2 do? Can the purchase be made? Or will it need to be chopped to build up again to lose its name?
    What do you mean when you say "registered"? Is it a Registered Assault Weapon?
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    • #3
      Ed_Hazard
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2008
      • 5146

      Originally posted by semperfidelis354
      Let's say hypothetically that someone wants to purchase a mak 90 from his father, later they find out mak 90 is illegal so no dice

      With me so far?

      Now let's say upon further investigation the mak 90 is actually an oll, but has been registered and a norinco mak 90 on paper,

      What would these 2 do? Can the purchase be made? Or will it need to be chopped to build up again to lose its name?
      OK first how is it registered? Just DROS'd when originally purchased or is it a RAW?
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      • #4
        G-forceJunkie
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2010
        • 6325

        Sounds like you got a sticky situation. Even if a Norinco MAK90 was registerd as an RAW, if your reciever does not say Norinco MAK90, thats not the weapon registered. If it was a paperwork mistake, I would file a NLIP and cancel the RAW with "destroyed" since a MAK90 reciever with those serial numbers do not exist (never did.) Your OLL AK style rifle would need to meet the AW standards for today: featurless or bullet buttoned with 10rd mags only. If it is just an OLL AK, transfership from father to son would take zero paperwork if you both live in CA. Dad hands you rifle, you say thanks. If he is out of state, it has to go through a CA FFL.

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        • #5
          semperfidelis354
          Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 437

          Not sure on the complete specifics, but what I do know is that the paperwork definitely states "norinko mak 90" and it was bought and originallt transferred preban, there are markings on the reciever that were put on with an engraving pencil and say "made in ca." But I can't remember what else, most likely the city. Also the original owner is probably dead so he can't be asked


          Also could you please tell me what "raw" and "nlip" mean? I'm new to gun transferring all together
          Last edited by semperfidelis354; 12-30-2010, 10:19 PM.

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          • #6
            G-forceJunkie
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 6325

            RAW: california Registered Assault Weapon. That means it was registered in the 1989 ban or the later 2000 registeration period. NLIP is No Longer In Possession, of you get rid of a firearm, its a form you fillout to tell California you no longer have it. It all boils down to if it it a real Norinco mak 90. Those are "on the list" of california assault weapons, they have to be registered, and cannot be sold to someone else in california. The "made in CA" etching on the receiver are probably from the importer as required by importation laws, and modified to to be legal, but that has nothing to do with who made it. You need to find out who made it and go from there. Also, check this out, it explains about RAW's http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf
            Last edited by G-forceJunkie; 12-30-2010, 10:42 PM.

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            • #7
              semperfidelis354
              Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 437

              Hmmm when I get back up to my dads place ill take a pic of what's on the reciever, i all I really know is what's on the paper and it was built by the previous owner. And there are markings on the lower reciever put there with an engraving pencil. I don't want to chop it and my dad doesn't want it any more

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              • #8
                G-forceJunkie
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2010
                • 6325

                Are you both California residents? If so, it may be easyist to sell it out of state, un register it with CA, and be done with it.

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                • #9
                  semperfidelis354
                  Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 437

                  Yeah we are both ca residents, if it turns out to be that its not legal ill buy a reciever flat and demil this rifle and rebuild it up to ca legal standards, one ofe the reasons he was ok giving it to me was it had been built by a marine, sold to my dad (marine) passed on to me (marine). So ill rebuild it to keep the tradition alive, and sell the reciever out of state, its a milled reciever not stamped, someobe will want to buy it.

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