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  • #16
    Capt. Speirs
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 1232

    Has anyone noticed that they never ask for credentials, I was amazed at how little info they require. I don't see the point in this form, anyone could do it.
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    • #17
      Eagle Armory
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      • Jul 2010
      • 3340

      Originally posted by Capt. Speirs
      Has anyone noticed that they never ask for credentials, I was amazed at how little info they require. I don't see the point in this form, anyone could do it.
      I like it when they go "what do I do with this?" you tell them to sign it and stamp it, then they try to hand it back to you, and you have to tell them to keep it.
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      • #18
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        It is always fun to get a new person with the form. The form is supposed to go to the post master. They make paper airplanes out of it for all I know, but actually I suspect they keep it in case the package is lost and if there is no form, then you might have a problem.

        You do not need a 1508 for each shipment. The form says:

        Addresses on Parcels (Use reverse side or attach additional blank sheets if more space is required)
        You don't put multiple different addresses on multiple parcels :-).

        There are restrictions as to who can send handguns using USPS. In general, you need to be a FFL.

        From that I heard, UPS changed the requirement to go with a more expensive service just before they were going public, in order to increase the profits and increase the stock price. FedEx followed as that want to make money too, although they would have made a lot of money from people switching from UPS. I have also heard that some of the "rules" don't apply to all, such as only shipping one handgun per package, but you have to be big enough to allow for an exemption.
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        • #19
          GetBulletsandBrass
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 376

          I'm thinking I'll spend the few extra bucks on Ops or Fedup only because I've seen my mail-carriers try to jam a box that 6 inches wide into a 4 inch mail box one time too many. The don't seem to get the round hole and square peg concept.
          Adam

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          • #20
            kemasa
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jun 2005
            • 10706

            All of the carriers have issues. Personally, I don't want to give the money to UPS or FedEx because they are greedy liars. Their excuse for why expensive services are required just don't make sense, plus they allow large shippers to send more than one handgun per package, but the average person has to send it in two packages, making each package easier to steal, as well as being much more expensive.

            The bottom line is that if ALL FFLs were to ship USPS rather than UPS or FedEx then they might change their rules.

            I have had boxes put in my post office box which fit from the back, but can not be removed from the front. It is a bit funny, except when you want to get the package.
            Kemasa.
            False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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            • #21
              Capt. Speirs
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 1232

              Originally posted by GetBulletsandBrass
              I'm thinking I'll spend the few extra bucks on Ops or Fedup only because I've seen my mail-carriers try to jam a box that 6 inches wide into a 4 inch mail box one time too many. The don't seem to get the round hole and square peg concept.
              Try 3 times as much.
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              • #22
                GoingQuiet
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Oct 2010
                • 2737

                Originally posted by Capt. Speirs
                Has anyone noticed that they never ask for credentials, I was amazed at how little info they require. I don't see the point in this form, anyone could do it.
                Not only am I asked for my license almost every time - I'm given a hard time because what I'm doing is completely illegal and my form is a forgery of some internet tomfoolery.
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                • #23
                  GoingQuiet
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2737

                  Originally posted by kemasa
                  All of the carriers have issues. Personally, I don't want to give the money to UPS or FedEx because they are greedy liars. Their excuse for why expensive services are required just don't make sense, plus they allow large shippers to send more than one handgun per package, but the average person has to send it in two packages, making each package easier to steal, as well as being much more expensive.

                  The bottom line is that if ALL FFLs were to ship USPS rather than UPS or FedEx then they might change their rules.

                  I have had boxes put in my post office box which fit from the back, but can not be removed from the front. It is a bit funny, except when you want to get the package.
                  You are able to send more than one gun in one package. Where did you hear this?
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                  • #24
                    Table Rock Arms
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 812

                    Originally posted by GoingQuiet
                    You are able to send more than one gun in one package. Where did you hear this?
                    He was referring to UPS letting certain shippers send more than one handgun per package while the rest of us can't. This I know happens for a fact as I generally order more than one handgun at a time from my distributor and they always show up on one box.

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                    • #25
                      GoingQuiet
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 2737

                      Originally posted by RLW
                      He was referring to UPS letting certain shippers send more than one handgun per package while the rest of us can't. This I know happens for a fact as I generally order more than one handgun at a time from my distributor and they always show up on one box.
                      I've never heard of UPS limiting shippers to one handgun to a box. If that is the case, they're about to lose bigtime. I'm currently running almost everything through the post office and I'm getting with an account rep to get on an incentive program.

                      If they don't let me fly two guns to a box - I'm going to call Fedex and see who wants my business.

                      The moral of the story is - ask. Most people just read the book and shrug. Once you start moving product you can negotiate your rate.
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                      • #26
                        gunenvy
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 171

                        Thats pretty funny, not allowing more then one gun per box. I think our record delivery was 12 Taurus TCPs in one box, heck when we order in Stag rifles we often receive them as a single "box" which is actually two taped together by the sender.

                        There is of course no restriction on how many can be in one box.
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                        • #27
                          gunenvy
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 171

                          Originally posted by GoingQuiet
                          Not only am I asked for my license almost every time - I'm given a hard time because what I'm doing is completely illegal and my form is a forgery of some internet tomfoolery.
                          We met with the manager at our local branch and sat down with him, he took care the next week of training all the counter staff for us so it wouldn't be a hassle. Now we actually get referral work from the post office
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                          • #28
                            kemasa
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 10706

                            They might have changed the rules since I just looked and I do not see the limit of one handgun per box, but it does say for UPS that the box must be new.

                            Kemasa.
                            False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                            Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                            Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                            • #29
                              jtmkinsd
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 2352

                              Originally posted by GoingQuiet
                              I've never heard of UPS limiting shippers to one handgun to a box. If that is the case, they're about to lose bigtime. I'm currently running almost everything through the post office and I'm getting with an account rep to get on an incentive program.

                              If they don't let me fly two guns to a box - I'm going to call Fedex and see who wants my business.

                              The moral of the story is - ask. Most people just read the book and shrug. Once you start moving product you can negotiate your rate.
                              I've received as many as 16 Sigs from the factory in one box through UPS...most I've ever shipped at once is 6 IIRC.
                              Originally posted by orangeglo
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                              • #30
                                Eagle Armory
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 3340

                                Originally posted by GoingQuiet
                                I've never heard of UPS limiting shippers to one handgun to a box. If that is the case, they're about to lose bigtime. I'm currently running almost everything through the post office and I'm getting with an account rep to get on an incentive program.

                                If they don't let me fly two guns to a box - I'm going to call Fedex and see who wants my business.

                                The moral of the story is - ask. Most people just read the book and shrug. Once you start moving product you can negotiate your rate.
                                I didn't know the USPS had an incentive program. Have any details or how to go about getting setup?
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