Handicapped PPT?

[Capt. Speirs]

I have a customer who wants to take procession of some firearms (handguns and long guns) from an elderly person who is physically handicapped and is confined to a home. Is there a way to do it as a PPT or does it have to be a dealer transfer? The father of the customer has a C&R, if that helps. Can the wife of the disabled person do a PPT with a Power of Attorney?

[kemasa]

You would need to talk to the CA DOJ, but I would say that it would not be possible to do it as a PPT unless the person can come to the FFL's business.

If the long guns are C&Rs, then the father could directly take those.

If the wife is considered the owner, then she could do the PPT. The handguns could be transferred to the wife (see below) and then transfer the firearms after that, but the it would get expensive.

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php#21

[tenpercentfirearms]

If they are rostered pistols, then just sign them in from the guy and run them as a standard transfer and just charge the customer the PPT fee. It actually saves you paperwork of having to get another ID and signature.

If there are multiple pistols and/or they are off roster, then PPT is the only real choice.

The DOJ might not like it, but you could always go to him and just pretend like he came into the shop.

[Capt. Speirs]

I think there should be some kind of provision for handicapped individuals. I think they are going to transfer the handguns to the wife and she would come in and do the PPT.

If they are rostered pistols, then just sign them in from the guy and run them as a standard transfer and just charge the customer the PPT fee. It actually saves you paperwork of having to get another ID and signature.

If there are multiple pistols and/or they are off roster, then PPT is the only real choice.

The DOJ might not like it, but you could always go to him and just pretend like he came into the shop.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I think there should be some kind of provision for handicapped individuals. I think they are going to transfer the handguns to the wife and she would come in and do the PPT.

In all honesty the DOJ doesn't care who the seller is on PPTs unless the buyer comes back prohibited.

Another thing to think about. If these guns are older and the husband and wife were married before 1991, there was no requirement to register pistols back then. He might have already legally given them to the wife, so she can lawfully do the PPT.

Again, even if she unlawfully did the PPT of guns that were in her husbands name, the odds of the DOJ doing anything about it are astronomically low. What the DOJ really cares about is the new owner has their name attached to those handguns.