Former Military and HSC requirement

[Unit74]

My neighbor went to get a pistol and brought along his DD-214.(Gulf War vet) The shop keep said he needed to get the HSC as the DD-214 does not meet the state requirement.

Is this BS or what? Was he just trying to make a buck on the HSC test?

[PolishMike]

DD214 does NOT work for HSC exemption. Needs to be a "retired" card. Stupid, buts that's the law.

[rrr70]

They should use X25 exemption.

[PolishMike]

They should use X25 exemption.

That is an "Honorably Retired" Exemption, not "Honorably Discharged"

[armygunsmith]

it's stupid but true. No respect.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Yep current military know how to use handguns. Retired military know how to use handguns. Honorably discharged before retirement military don't know crap.

[rrr70]

That is an "Honorably Retired" Exemption, not "Honorably Discharged"

Brain fart.

[JOEKILLA]

DD214 used to work.

[halifax]

Too many former military to make any profit from HSC.

I guess our legislators thought a kid fresh out of boot camp has more experience with handguns than a vet that served three tours in a war zone.

Now, that's asinine right there.

[DougJ]

Too many former military to make any profit from HSC.

I guess our legislators thought a kid fresh out of boot camp has more experience with handguns than a vet that served three tours in a war zone.

Now, that's asinine right there.

Wait a minute. Are you saying that our legislators in CA would make law and exceptions to them that don't really make sense, but simply provide for a "feel good" political gain?!?!?

Come on!

[Maddog5150]

When I first signed up, I laughed and showed the other guys at work my military ID card. I had a few months before I went to basic and AIT and said, "hey look, now I can buy a gun in California without having to take the test and I havent even been to basic yet!" We all laughed because its a stupid law. Retarded. I heard that there was going to be NO exemptions when the HSC first came out. None for LE, Military, ANYONE but at the last minute they started adding them. I feel there should be NO exemptions or NO HSC. One or the other. Why should civillian law enforment, the only one qualified in the room to handle a glock fo-tay (a joke, not a generalized statement ) be exempt or the kid who hasnt even left for basic yet be exempt either when the average gun owner has more weapons and probably more experience?
Therefore, lets ditch this HSC program. only 1 out of 50 fail anyways.

[tenpercentfirearms]

When I first signed up, I laughed and showed the other guys at work my military ID card. I had a few months before I went to basic and AIT and said, "hey look, now I can buy a gun in California without having to take the test and I havent even been to basic yet!" We all laughed because its a stupid law. Retarded. I heard that there was going to be NO exemptions when the HSC first came out. None for LE, Military, ANYONE but at the last minute they started adding them. I feel there should be NO exemptions or NO HSC. One or the other. Why should civillian law enforment, the only one qualified in the room to handle a glock fo-tay (a joke, not a generalized statement ) be exempt or the kid who hasnt even left for basic yet be exempt either when the average gun owner has more weapons and probably more experience?
Therefore, lets ditch this HSC program. only 1 out of 50 fail anyways.

I like the CCW exception.

[EOD Guy]

I like the CCW exception.

OK, I'll bite. What CCW exception?

[tenpercentfirearms]

OK, I'll bite. What CCW exception?

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/hscfaqs.php#c6

What are the Handgun Safety Certificate (HSC) requirement exemption codes?
X01 = Special Weapons Permit Holder
X02 = Operation of Law Representative
X03 = Handgun being returned to the owner
X13 = FFL collector with COE (curio and relic handguns only)
X21 = Military - Active Duty
X22 = Military - Reserve
X25 = Military - Honorably Retired
X31 = Peace Officer - California - Active
X32 = Peace Officer - Federal - Active
X33 = Peace Officer - California - Honorably Retired
X34 = Peace Officer - California - Reserve
X35 = Peace Officer - Federal - Honorably Retired
X41 = Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) Permit Holder
X81 = P.O.S.T. 832 PC (Firearms) Training
X91 = Particular and Limited Authority Peace Officers
X95 = Law Enforcement Service Gun to Family Member

[winnre]

X41 does NOT say California CCW holder, so will Utah work?