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  • Slotcar
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 471

    Father-In-Law Interstate Transfer??

    Before anybody dumps on me too hard, I searched (as best as I know how) on CG before posting this thread...

    My Father-In-Law in Michigan wants to give me a couple of his handguns. How do we go about the transfer?

    Does anybody have any recommended FFL's in the San Bernardino/Riverside/San Diego areas who will do this?
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    Lucky7
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 681

    First are they on the DOJ safe list of handguns? If they are not on it you can still get them but they will have to be transferred to your wife. The guns will have to be sent to your FFL to be DROS'ed and have your ten day wait. I am not sure but I think he will have to have an FFL send them to your FFL. I don't know of any FFL's in your area but I am sure someone can help you with that.

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    • #3
      Slotcar
      Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 471

      I am checking on the Safe List issues. I am pretty sure one of them is not but the other is a Model 29 so I will have to check.
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      • #4
        Lucky7
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 681

        So what are the guns he is giving you?

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        • #5
          ke6guj
          Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Nov 2003
          • 23725

          Originally posted by Lucky7
          First are they on the DOJ safe list of handguns? If they are not on it you can still get them but they will have to be transferred to your wife.
          correct, if not on the roster, have to go to the wife. If they are on the roster, direct to you through an FFL.


          The guns will have to be sent to your FFL to be DROS'ed and have your ten day wait. I am not sure but I think he will have to have an FFL send them to your FFL.
          FIL could ship them to your FFL, or he could hand-deliver them to the FFL. There is no legal requirement that it be shipped FROM an FFL, but the receiving FFL may have a company policy to only accept shipments from other FFLs.


          I don't know of any FFL's in your area but I am sure someone can help you with that.
          In the IE, I would suggest Bright Spot Pawn as an FFL that is probably up to speed on how an inter-state, intra-family, roster-exempt transfer would need to be processed between your father-in-law and your wife.
          Jack



          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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          • #6
            Slotcar
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 471

            Another twist...this is wife's step father...does this make a difference?
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            • #7
              Slotcar
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 471

              Originally posted by Lucky7
              So what are the guns he is giving you?
              A model 29 no dash... and some sort of .25 (not sure if I even want this one though).
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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by Slotcar
                Another twist...this is wife's step father...does this make a difference?
                Yes.

                Did the step-father legally adopt your wife?
                If not, then it may not qualify for the intra-familial exemption.
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                • #9
                  ke6guj
                  Moderator
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 23725

                  Originally posted by Slotcar
                  Another twist...this is wife's step father...does this make a difference?
                  yes, it does. The intrafamily exemption is between grandparent, parent, child, and grandchild. Step relationships probably don't fall under that exemption, unless they adopted the child. In this case, your wife's step-father would not be able to transfer non-rostered handguns to her, but her mom could.

                  Originally posted by Slotcar
                  A model 29 no dash... and some sort of .25 (not sure if I even want this one though).
                  There are only a couple 29 dash versions on the roster, a no-dash 29 is not on the roster. And that .25 probably isn't either.
                  Jack



                  Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                  No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                  • #10
                    Slotcar
                    Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 471

                    Originally posted by ke6guj
                    In this case, your wife's step-father would not be able to transfer non-rostered handguns to her, but her mom could.



                    There are only a couple 29 dash versions on the roster, a no-dash 29 is not on the roster. And that .25 probably isn't either.
                    The favorite mother in law...hmmm...I hadn't thought of that.

                    I looked, the 29 no dash isn't on the roster.

                    What a pain in the neck...
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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
                      Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      Originally posted by Slotcar
                      The favorite mother in law...hmmm...I hadn't thought of that.
                      ha ha, if you get the hook up, no more mother-in-law jokes for you
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        Mssr. Eleganté
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 10401

                        Originally posted by Slotcar
                        ...I looked, the 29 no dash isn't on the roster...
                        I'm no S&W expert, but I think that all "no dash" Model 29s might be over 50 years old. If so, that means they would be exempt from The Roster because of their Curio & Relic status.
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                        • #13
                          Slotcar
                          Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 471

                          I'm no S&W expert, but I think that all "no dash" Model 29s might be over 50 years old. If so, that means they would be exempt from The Roster because of their Curio & Relic status.
                          So I did a little more digging with my father-in-law and it turns out that the model 29 is actually a Pre-Model 29 with the serial number 174XXX dating it to be manufactured pre-1957.

                          Does this make it any easier for him to transfer it to me directly?
                          "THIS is the space typically used to impress others with wit & insightfulness..."

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                          • #14
                            ke6guj
                            Moderator
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 23725

                            Originally posted by Slotcar
                            So I did a little more digging with my father-in-law and it turns out that the model 29 is actually a Pre-Model 29 with the serial number 174XXX dating it to be manufactured pre-1957.

                            Does this make it any easier for him to transfer it to me directly?
                            yup, in that case, it is C&R and the roster does not apply. In this case, he could ship it, or hand deliver, to your local FFL. The FFL would do a roster-exempt transfer to you, due to its C&R status. The FFL can charge whatever fee he wishes, but you wouldn't need to get your mother-in-law or wife involved in the transfer.

                            The FFL might want some documentation confirming C&R status, so talk to your FFL about that.
                            Jack



                            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                            • #15
                              vf111
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 2641

                              Is it written somewhere that the intra-familial transfer between a step-parent and a step-son is legal if the step-son was legally adopted? A friend of mine's step-father has only 30 days left and he being a non-gun guy has asked me for help in disposing of his step-dad's guns.

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