FFL School Zone

[CRT10]

I want to get my FFL and sell out of my house. Does living across the street from a school count me out? I don't want to store a bunch of guns or anything, just as ordered.

[Cokebottle]

I want to get my FFL and sell out of my house. Does living across the street from a school count me out? I don't want to store a bunch of guns or anything, just as ordered.

The school zone itself is not a problem, so long as all guns coming and going are contained within secure locked cases. Note, California's GFSZ (626.9) only refers to handguns, but the Federal GFSZ impacts long guns as well.

However, there may be zoning ordinances with your city or county that may prohibit such a business from being run from a residential area.
Are you in an incorporated city or unincorporated county?
What county?

I doubt you are going to get a "kitchen table" FFL approved in most incorporated cities in SoCal or the bay area, as well as LA County and many counties in the bay area.

[916xd40]

bump!!! tryin to assist my father in getting his FFL. He too lives directly across he street from an elementray school. He lives in sacramento county, and as far as i know its an unincorporated area as well.

[billslugg]

bump!!! tryin to assist my father in getting his FFL. He too lives directly across he street from an elementary school. He lives in sacramento county, and as far as I know its an unincorporated area as well.

Your first hurdle is the business license. Unincorporated areas generally allow businesses to be run out of a home.

Your second hurdle is convincing the county to let you do whatever the proposed FFL wants to do. If you want to sell, then the county fathers are looking at a source of injection of firearms into their community. They might have a problem with that and stand firm against you. If your business license is proposed to be stamped "no sales" then you might be able to convince them to let you have one and then you could at least work on guns. If they do not want you selling guns or working on guns then you might set your self up knitting booties. Booties are a valuable adjunct to the safety and convenience of the entire community. They warm the feet of tiny babies, can be used to protect the finish of expensive hand guns and are the perfect antidote for closet conservatives on the county commission to drug their nagging liberal wives with, thus letting them back into bed after the wives find out your license is approved. "But honey, the guy is knitting freakin' baby booties".

As it can take several days to knit a bootie for a hand gun, and since I need the gun in my possession in order to fit the bootie properly, I am thus holding a serialized receiver longer than 24 hours. Therefore it is required by Federal Law that my premises be inspected for security adequacy, and my background be checked for any legal troubles.

If by some stroke of fortune they bought that argument, I would quickly set up an actual bootie making operation in my house. Women would actually come to my house one day a week and knit booties. Ads in the paper, the whole shebang. Meanwhile you now have the ability to but not necessarily the permission of the county fathers to transfer weapons.

The key is to abide by the law, keep your activities low key and push for more permission. If you do all the right paperwork and every body is happy and you develop a solid reputation with the county, (give talks on proper locking of a hand gun, join Chamber of Commerce) then you might approach the county to sell "mail order". You take what you can get to the limit and then argue for more based on your responsible behavior.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Business license or nothing. That is your first step.

[Capt. Speirs]

Business License Department in my city sent me to Zoning, try Zoning first, its free.

[billslugg]

Business License Department in my city sent me to Zoning, try Zoning first, its free.

Yes, it is free for you to talk to zoning, but in doing so, you must convince them to sign off on your plan. Ask them straight up if sales are allowed, if visitors are allowed, if excessive deliveries are allowed and if it is possible to manufacture. If you get the coveted M-1 (Single occupant manufacturing) classification for your location then the ATF will gladly give you an 07 FFL and as a bonus they will only charge you $150 versus the $200 that an 01 costs.

Otherwise you argue for the most invasive thing they will agree to. Booties are the last ditch effort in the case of a reluctant zoning board.